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Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

#71
post #53

Not ITT: The obvious topic of crime in Freiburg. OK, in 2019 the lost the lead of city with most crimes per 100.000 inhabitants. But Freiburg still scored 3rd place. Freiburg has many faces and the linked article is a very selective subset of what Freiburg is. Don't be fooled.

According to [1] it placed 13th (of 40) last year with 9.798 crimes/100k inhabitants. According to [2] it was 9th in 2018.

Combining the two ([2]also lists the safest 10 cities) I question the impact for the lower parts of that list, as the difference in absolute numbers for the lower "safe" cities and the lower "dangerous" cities is quite low.

[1] https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/200790/umfrag...

[2] https://www.allianzdirect.de/hausratversicherung/gefaehrlich...

Note: [1] switched from public to premium staitstic for me when opening it for a second and third time...

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

#72

> why you aren‘t using reusable diapers in the first place. A good question indeed?

I see you don't have kids. Even with one, even when we tried to go as eco-friendly way as possible (including using washable diapers with washable paper inserts), there are limits.

Eco wash liquids are not as effective, so you end up sometimes washing twice (what's eco about that?).

Washable diapers are much less absorbent compared to regular ones, so its not an option for us for night - baby skin would be highly irritated the next morning. Same goes for more liquid poop - it would overflow very easily. And so on.

If you are en eco fanatic, then you can go that way, but in our case it would mean actively hurting our baby.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

#73
post #42

400km of bike trails is an insane amount for a small town, assuming they aren’t counting bike lanes. I doubt any of the 1M+ pop cities I’ve lived in came anywhere close to that in bike or MUTs.

Oulu, a 200k town in Finland, claims to have 600 km. It still could do with some more bike paths and improvements to the existing ones, but it is at a level where almost all places are reasonably easy to access by bicycle.

You can't compare a Finnish city/municipality with a German one. In Germany it's often 5-6 km to the next municipality. In Finland it's 5-6 km to the next residential area in the (few) big cities.

I'd guess the coverage of bike paths in Freiburg and Oulu might be very similar. It's the cities that are not comparable. Finnish municipalities often have the size of German county (Landkreis), but not even the population of a German city.

(I have lived in Germany and Finland. But have never visited Freiburg and it's decades that I biked in or even visited Oulu the last time.)

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

#74

> why you aren‘t using reusable diapers in the first place. A good question indeed?

Even the Amish use real nappies rather than messing around with reusables. Real nappies are better for baby and toddler bums, easier for already stressed parents and more hygienic. Reusables result in massive energy and water waste, they are a health hazard if not washed properly (many manufacturers washing instructions are very inadequate. They must be washed at a minimum of 60°C whatever your manufacturer said), re…

Are you Procter and Gamble??

The argument for and against reusable is pretty much undecided. There also services which do the washing for you. And they are probably way more efficient than people washing at home in terms of energy used.

Anyhow, real eco-parents go diaper-less as most parents in the world. Google split-pants, elimination communication! Compared to this letting children sitting in their own feces in reusable or not-reusable nappies is pretty unhygienic.

Downvotes? I know it is a big leap for the western mind, that most human ever lived have never seen a nappy. There is a lot of problems with diapers e.g. rash etc.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

#75

Apparently, owning a car is the easiest way to commit social suicide in Vauban — That is the spirit unfortunately. Unfortunately, because once you allow to degrade strangers/neighbors in public for something malign like that, it doesn’t stop there. Because of this Vauban is not always admired, rather sometimes regarded as tax payer funded dystopia for upper class people to live in. E.g. your amount of thrash you can…

This has been my experience with Germany / Switzerland as well. Very punishment-based

Don't know which part of Suisse you talk about, but for me, living in Zurich, Lausanne and Geneva I never experienced even a glimpse of what OP mentions.

Yes, you can't behave like an arrogant a-hole, people will complain and call services/cops on you. But if you follow few simple rules which can be summed up as 'be respectful of others and laws in the country', you can have a great time since respect goes both ways.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

#76

> why you aren‘t using reusable diapers in the first place. A good question indeed?

The main threat to the planet is CO2 and human generated climate change.

How many people can find, and understand, the information about CO2 use across the total life of disposable nappies Vs cotton nappies?

EDIT: here's an example analysis. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...

It's 37 pages of detailed information that looks at the total life-cycle.

> The average 2006 disposable nappy would result in a global warming impact of approximately 550kg of carbon dioxide equivalents used over the two and a half years a child is typically in nappies. The global warming impact from disposable nappies use has decreased since the previous study due to manufacturing changes and a 13.5 per cent reduction in the weight of nappies.

> The report highlights that the manufacture of disposable nappies has greater environmental impact in the UK than their waste management by landfill.

> For reusable nappies, the baseline scenario based on average washer and drier use produced a global warming impact of approximately 570kg of carbon dioxide equivalents. However, the study showed that the impacts for reusable nappies are highly dependent on the way they are laundered.

> Washing the nappies in fuller loads or line-drying them outdoors all the time (ignoring UK climatic conditions for the purposes of illustration) was found to reduce this figure by 16 per cent. Combining three of the beneficial scenarios (washing nappies in a fuller load, outdoor line drying all of the time, and reusing nappies on a second child) would lower the global warming impact by 40 per cent from the baseline scenario, or some 200kg of carbon dioxide equivalents over the two and a half years, equal to driving a car approximately 1,000 km.

> In contrast, the study indicated that if a consumer tumble-dried all their reusable nappies, it would produce a global warming impact 43 per cent higher than the baseline scenario. Similarly, washing nappies at 90°C instead of at 60°C would increase global warming impact by 31 per cent over the baseline. Combining these two energy intensive scenarios would increase the global warming impact by 75 per cent over the baseline scenario, or some 420kg of carbon dioxide equivalent over the two and a half years.

> The environmental impacts of using shaped reusable nappies can be higher or lower than using disposables, depending on how they are laundered. The report shows that, in contrast to the use of disposable nappies, it is consumers’ behaviour after purchase that determines most of the impacts from reusable nappies.

> Cloth nappy users can reduce their environmental impacts by:

  •    Line drying outside whenever possible. 
  •    Tumble drying as little as possible. 
  •    When replacing appliances, choosing more energy efficient appliances (A+ rated machines are preferred).
  •    Not washing above 60°C. 
  •    Washing fuller loads. 
  •    Reusing nappies on other children.  

It's not a simple calculation.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

#77

Apparently, owning a car is the easiest way to commit social suicide in Vauban — That is the spirit unfortunately. Unfortunately, because once you allow to degrade strangers/neighbors in public for something malign like that, it doesn’t stop there. Because of this Vauban is not always admired, rather sometimes regarded as tax payer funded dystopia for upper class people to live in. E.g. your amount of thrash you can…

It would make sense to take special considerations into account, such that e.g., families with babies have a higher garbage quota than others.

Where I live, the town actually implements a variation of this: if you have a child under 3, you can apply for a "diaper subsidy" to your garbage fee, offered by the town, because they assume that you will need more bins emptied than other households (in general, you pay for how many times your bin gets emptied).

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

#78
post #55

Apparently, owning a car is the easiest way to commit social suicide in Vauban — That is the spirit unfortunately. Unfortunately, because once you allow to degrade strangers/neighbors in public for something malign like that, it doesn’t stop there. Because of this Vauban is not always admired, rather sometimes regarded as tax payer funded dystopia for upper class people to live in. E.g. your amount of thrash you can…

I think such behaviour is ok, but that’s because I feel that is what it means to be socially invested. But I also recognize that for other countries this might seem restrictive or weird (as in why would you do that?) In practice, and I currently live in a socially cohesive neighborhood, in practice it is just very laidback and it’s about helping eachother out and live and let live.

As an example of the cultural difference you're talking about: I don't think this is social cohesion. This is highly intrusive: people interfering with other peoples' lives, constantly scrutinising and fault-finding, and sticking their noses in where they don't belong. To me it sounds absolutely intolerable.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

#79
post #31
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may be backwards now (indeed I agree that it is backwards now, given new tech), but it was emphatically not backwards with the nuclear tech of the mid-1970s, which is when the protest of the nuclear plant project in question took place.

Germany's nuclear power plants are from the 70's and early 80's. How can it be backwards now? Building new plants, while it may safer today than it was back than is just not economical when compared to renewables.

Do you have a source for that? I hear it all the time but can never find good data to compare.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

#80

> why you aren‘t using reusable diapers in the first place. A good question indeed?

I see you don't have kids. Even with one, even when we tried to go as eco-friendly way as possible (including using washable diapers with washable paper inserts), there are limits. Eco wash liquids are not as effective, so you end up sometimes washing twice (what's eco about that?). Washable diapers are much less absorbent compared to regular ones, so its not an option for us for night - baby skin would be highly irr…

Go diaper-less, it is easy and clean. I know it is hard to imagine for the western mind. But most human ever lived, have never seen a diaper.

There are lot of wrong with diapers e.g. rash etc.

Google split-pants, elimination communication!

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