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Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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I love this comment because it's a great example of how the exact same data can be used to support opposing narratives. The raw data here is that California sees a certain quantity of bottle recycling and has a certain level of social safety net. * One narrative is that the high bottle recycling rate shows a problem with the social safety net. * Another narrative is that recycling rate shows that it is itself functio…

> Another narrative is that recycling rate shows that it is itself functioning as part of the solution to the social safety net. In my experience, no one in good faith argues that bottle deposits are a part of the social safety net, let alone a functional part. Edit: to clarify, mine is a US centric experience. I think the argument for recycling collection as a tool of economic mobility is perfectly sound as long as…

It is a part of the safety net, whether it was designed that way or not. Note that I'm not claiming that it should be.

Unfortunately it puts the collectors at risk, because it incentivizes them to root through garbage cans full of potentially dangerous material without any protective equipment. And in the end its a complete waste of their time. If the government wants to earmark that money for them, they should just do that, and let those people do something meaningful like job training, or raising grandchildren, or whatever, instead of being up to their elbows in broken glass and used condoms in the middle of the night. Most of the recyclable material was already in somebody's recycling bin already, so it's not like they're cleaning up the environment or any other social good.

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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That’s where the first R comes in. Only buy as many Pringles cans as you can reuse. People don’t want to do that either, though, because Pringles are addictive. That may be the root problem. There’s no way they’ll sell Pringles in bags though; they’re way too delicate for anything but a purpose-built rigid container.

> That’s where the first R comes in. Only buy as many Pringles cans as you can reuse. People don’t want to do that either, though, because Pringles are addictive. That may be the root problem. The first R is already not an option, people who buy pringles want pringles, otherwise they wouldn’t be buying that. Short of making pringles illegal you’re not going to change this. > There’s no way they’ll sell Pringles in ba…

Chips remain sold in bags to this day.

Chips which are much thicker than Pringles.

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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post #19

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That’s where the first R comes in. Only buy as many Pringles cans as you can reuse. People don’t want to do that either, though, because Pringles are addictive. That may be the root problem. There’s no way they’ll sell Pringles in bags though; they’re way too delicate for anything but a purpose-built rigid container.

> Pringles are addictive Pringles have nothing on Doritos.

Structural integrity?

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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post #19

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That’s where the first R comes in. Only buy as many Pringles cans as you can reuse. People don’t want to do that either, though, because Pringles are addictive. That may be the root problem. There’s no way they’ll sell Pringles in bags though; they’re way too delicate for anything but a purpose-built rigid container.

> a purpose-built rigid container. Why not Al cans?

> Why not Al cans?

I am sick and tired of this being the solution to every problem!

Anytime there's a legacy business model in need of polishing, they plate it in Al and call it something new.

Al doesn't work that way. There's many uses it excels at, but it's not a panacea.

Nowadays, we have Al toasters, Al refrigerators, even Al watches. Yet no one stopped to ask if these were devices that needed Al.

Hell, I even heard about a company that's building Al homes. Interface with your car and everything.

Personally, I can't wait for the next Al winter.

/1950s sarcasm

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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I love Pringles tubes. We reuse them all over the place around the house. Never really thought of recycling them. Seems like a terrible waste to destroy a perfectly good container just to get a ~penny’s worth of materials out of it. This is one of the big problems I have with recycling. When I was a kid in school (throughout the 90’s), we learned the 3 R’s: reduce, reuse, recycle. Notice that recycle is last on the l…

> Nowadays I don’t hear about the 3 R’s anymore. It’s become all about people dumping everything in a box and making it somebody else’s problem, just as trash was in the first place. That's because companies don't want us to reduce or in many cases reuse, but recycle makes everyone feel good inside (even though in many cases even that doesn't happen, but we as consumers don't care).

> companies don't want

Thank you for saying this. It's crucial that we recognize how consent is manufactured by corporate propaganda that goes way beyond the simplistic "buy our product!" messaging that folks normally think of.

Our reality is dictated by private companies to suit their bottom lines. We've got to be very careful to make sure we know what's good for us, what we want, and how to get it. Corporate propaganda inserts memetic man-in-the-middle attacks at every step in that line of reasoning.

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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The traditional thing to do is to make packaging smaller (while keeping price the same) - so you'd get to store your new cans in your old cans.

The tradition is to keep the packaging the same, but less content. The same packaging for less should be a crime with bankrupting fines.

It's illegal alright

https://www.npr.org/2016/04/20/474935457/planet-money-class-...

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2016/04/15/474406842/epis...

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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I love Pringles tubes. We reuse them all over the place around the house. Never really thought of recycling them. Seems like a terrible waste to destroy a perfectly good container just to get a ~penny’s worth of materials out of it. This is one of the big problems I have with recycling. When I was a kid in school (throughout the 90’s), we learned the 3 R’s: reduce, reuse, recycle. Notice that recycle is last on the l…

What do you use Pringles cans for that makes them so useful: say you were buying one per week?

When I was younger and poorer they made a decent speaker (amplifier? echo chamber?) in a pinch, if you taped an earbud into the open end, facing the bottom of the tube.

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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> a purpose-built rigid container. Why not Al cans?

> Why not Al cans? I am sick and tired of this being the solution to every problem! Anytime there's a legacy business model in need of polishing, they plate it in Al and call it something new. Al doesn't work that way. There's many uses it excels at, but it's not a panacea. Nowadays, we have Al toasters, Al refrigerators, even Al watches. Yet no one stopped to ask if these were devices that needed Al. Hell, I even he…

Al = Aluminium

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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Maybe they can progressively make Pringles cans bigger so you can store your old cans inside your new cans.

This scenario inevitably ends up with the solar system inside a very big Pringles can

Pringles - Dyson edition!

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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Cool! I'll have to go out and buy some Pringles, I need those things done. Normally I don't buy Pringles at all, not in decades. Because, honestly, they're the consistency of pasteboard and taste of mostly salt. The bottom rung on the snack ladder. I snack on nothing instead of Pringles if that's the only option. But the can! That seems worthwhile now that you call out its many uses.

The great thing about the cans is that they're reasonably air-tight. I find if I open a sleeve of soda crackers and then try to close them up and store them in the original box they're pretty much guaranteed to be stale by about half-way through the sleeve. Not so if I store them in a Pringles can. They stay fresh for way longer due to the confined space and decent-sealing lid.

How would they go with coffee beans, I wonder!
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