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I built an app to fix my depression

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Re: I built an app to fix my depression

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I don't want to disparage anyone, and I will take a look at the app when it's back up, but I'm not even sure what depression is anymore. Mild flu symptoms is not a phrase I'd used. It's great that more people are talking about their mental health, and that it's becoming more acceptable to seek help. But the word "depression" has become so murky to me, I rarely know what people mean when they use it. Maybe I just don'…

Stanford's Sapolsky does a pretty good job explaining what is and isn't. I recommend the full lecture, it's interesting stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc

Sapolsky himself struggles with depression, which he claims is genetic, IIRC. Not that I know anything, but I was struck that someone with his knowledge and intellect seemed to have given up attempting to treat it. He maintained psychological defenses that made me wonder whether he'd received adequate care.

I'm not sure where I heard this, but likely it's one of the following podcasts, which are worthwhile.

Sam Harris #91 - The Biology of Good and Evil https://samharris.org/podcasts/91-biology-good-evil/ YT version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLWzMH8psFU

Peter Attia #51 – Robert Sapolsky, Ph.D.: The pervasive effect of stress – is it killing you? https://peterattiamd.com/robertsapolsky/

Re: I built an app to fix my depression

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Thanks for sharing.

I'll share one reaction I had — these sorts of things are normally narrated in professional, glossy, somewhat saccharine voices, and it was a fun and surprising moment of human connection to realize, hey, this is just some dude talking into his laptop mic! While I imagine you might consider investing in professional VO at some point, there's something really nice about the way it is now.

I wonder what it's like for you to hear your own voice asking these questions of you — is there any value in that specifically?

Re: I built an app to fix my depression

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It makes me sad when i read stories like that. I feel depressed. Doctor - Take these pills. I still feel sad. Doctor - Take more pills. Medication cures symptoms of depression but cannot fix the underlying problems causing it. Taking pill to feel happy again is a patchwork that will eventually burst catastrophically.

> Medication cures symptoms of depression but cannot fix the underlying problems causing it.

Sometimes those underlying conditions are brain chemistry though. The pills work for a lot of people. My Bi Polar depression doesn't seem to stem from any trauma or anything. I've done therapy and it did nothing. I've tried exercise, it helps for a short period. I tried diet, seems to help a little. If also tried about 15 different medications before a found a combination that keeps my mood fairly stable.

I almost killed myself before I found the right combination of meds. Meds work for some people we shouldn't be so quick to discourage it.

Re: I built an app to fix my depression

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Read the blog post and also the other blog post in the page ( "Why discipline isn’t the answer to procrastination", "How to stick to good habits without being hard on yourself", "How fear of shame causes procrastination", "How fear of success causes procrastination"). I get the feeling that the author is in a situation a lot of people in HN could relate to: A situation where Performance Anxiety, Fear of missing out (…

I can speak on the ADHD aspect of that at least. As for the other things you've described - those might be more anxiety-adjacent issues, and aren't something I can speak to. I've still dealt with depression a few times - but each time that had it's root in untreated ADHD or autism spectrum issues. Personally, the issue for the longest time was that I didn't understand my own issues. I went way too long without seekin…

> we are motivated by Interest, Challenge, Novelty, and Urgency

Holy cow. You've just described my whole life in a single phrase. I need to go away and ponder this. Thanks.

Re: I built an app to fix my depression

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Holy smokes guys, I went to sleep after posting this and woke up to the tiny server running my blog dead and about a 100 comments here. I'll get my kid to school and then sort everything out. Thanks!

It's a cool approach to a problem a lot of people are struggling with right now. It's also not trying to sell me something right off the bat. Great work! It's a net positive contribution to a planet that needs it right now.

Re: I built an app to fix my depression

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So many mental health apps these days with so little high quality evidence of their effectiveness. And there are so many of these apps out there, why would someone build their own? Maybe OP is onto something though. Could it be that the creative process and challenge of building an app to solve a personal problem is just as good a treatment for depression as the app itself?

So many are just trying to sell you something. It's like if you went to visit your Psychiatrist and they tried to sell you a time-share on your way out of the office.

People deserve to be compensated for their work, obviously, but this is a space where people are looking to escape from being sold something or manipulated in some way.

If someone is building the app for themselves, it's based around actually helping and doesn't have some underlying agenda that it's trying to hide under the tablecloth.

Like a walk through the forest, the trees aren't reaching for your wallet when you turn around. The trees are just there to do some light photosynthesis before lunch, and then maybe make some pinecones that afternoon.

Re: I built an app to fix my depression

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Read the blog post and also the other blog post in the page ( "Why discipline isn’t the answer to procrastination", "How to stick to good habits without being hard on yourself", "How fear of shame causes procrastination", "How fear of success causes procrastination"). I get the feeling that the author is in a situation a lot of people in HN could relate to: A situation where Performance Anxiety, Fear of missing out (…

I clicked through to one of those articles where it soon brings up "Ego Depletion" which AFAIK has been debunked.
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