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Imperial mathematician scoops $3M Breakthrough Prize

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Re: Imperial mathematician scoops $3M Breakthrough Prize

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"This prize isn’t too highly regarded." [By whom?] "The physics prize has mostly consisted of string theorists giving it to their friends in the field." Firsty, the Breakthrough Prize is given in Life Sciences, Mathematics and Fundamental Physics. This post is about the Breakthrough Prize in Mathematics. As for Fundamental Physics, apart from 2019 (special) for supergravity, it doesn't seem to go to string theorists:…

Whom was me and others in the physics department I was associated with. You can find more discussions on the prize on the not even wrong blog https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=8958

Okey, let me quote another post by Peter Woit from 2016:

"One thing that strikes me about these things is that the situation with the physics prize has changed dramatically since the first three years, when they went mostly to string theorists. Having a heavily promoted much larger cash prize than the Nobel, given largely to theorists for ideas many of which haven’t worked out, raised obvious questions about the wisdom of the whole thing. The last two years have seen a 180 degree turn, with the prizes going to experimentalists for successful experimental results. Even better, there has been an unusual emphasis on making an award to entire experimental collaborations, not just a small number of “great men” identified as collaboration leaders or spokespersons. I don’t know of any other major prizes that do this. The lack of an experimental Nobel for the Higgs discovery is one reflection of that problem, it’s great that the Breakthrough Prize people are doing something about it."[0]

Basically, we have two criticized recent physics awards (2019 special and 2017) and several in the very beginning. That still doesn't qualify as 'mostly'.

[0] http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=8088

Re: Imperial mathematician scoops $3M Breakthrough Prize

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> He won the Fields Medal in 2014 Damn. I'm sure he appreciates the $3M (elsewhere he joked that he could finally afford to buy a house in London) but the Fields Medal is a much bigger deal in the world of mathematics.

Martin Hairer also has a software company making audio editing tools ( https://hairersoft.com/ ) - I love this Fields medal comment in the middle of an otherwise mundane support forum thread about MacOS compatibility! https://hairersoft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2574&p=8222...

Love that he is still answering customer questions on the Amadeus forum weekly

Re: Imperial mathematician scoops $3M Breakthrough Prize

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> I imagine that a knighted professor at Imperial can comfortably access a mortgage in London You don't get paid for being knighted. And these universities have a mostly fixed pay scale it's not like Google where you can just demand whatever you want if you're good enough.

Senior professors negotiate their pay.

I don't know what you think that looks like in practice... but it's going to be very very modest at a British public university.

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One thing I learned: he did his work while at Warwick. Warwick is kind of under-estimated among UK universities. It's reasonably well-run (which makes it almost unique), regularly hires smart people, and doesn't have the Brideshead Revisited hangover of Oxbridge.

Britain has a whole clutch of universities which are global research powerhouses but are scorned as boring redbricks (or whatever) by most of the locals and unheard of to most people internationally.

Which ones would you recommend?

Re: Imperial mathematician scoops $3M Breakthrough Prize

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I imagine that a knighted professor at Imperial can comfortably access a mortgage in London, so I doubt this applied to Martin Hairer. But, post-graduates in London (if they have no other source of support) do tend to have a difficult lifestyle. Not recommended.

No not really. With the average price of a house in London approaching £1m https://www.home.co.uk/guides/house_prices.htm?location=lond... and an average professor at Imperial earning £80k https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Salary/Imperial-College-London-P...

Looking more closely on glassdoor: it's unlikely to be true that Imperial professor salaries average £80k and University College London salaries average £101k, and these figures are more likely biased by small, self-selecting samples.

[Updated to note: Imperial College quotes a fixed minimum salary of £79,080 for professors in 2019 with performance-related increases - so the Glassdoor figures quoting lower than that cannot be right]

The home.co.uk site quotes the median price of property listings is £600k (is that close to £1m? ok sure). It also identifies that houses priced higher than that are listed for significantly longer, i.e. they count with more weight in this stat despite not selling. Therefore, I understand the median sale price to be lower.

Re: Imperial mathematician scoops $3M Breakthrough Prize

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Which actually made me wonder - where/how do London academics live? I find it hard to imagine them commuting for hours from the suburbs - it does not seem very consistent with an academic life - but I do not see them being able to afford to live near their universities either.

> I find it hard to imagine them commuting for hours from the suburbs... Why? It's as easy to commute from certain places outside of London as inside. For instance, it takes longer for me to get from where I live in south London to e.g. Kings Cross than it would to get there from Cambridge. The amount of time you save by living more centrally is probably less than 20 minutes.

Ha I agree with the broad point, but as someone who (used to until Covid) commute from South London to Kings Cross everyday, this doesn't seem true timewise until you live quite far South in London. And I live a 15 minute walk from a tube station.

Having said that, I agree with the sentiment!

Re: Imperial mathematician scoops $3M Breakthrough Prize

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There is a 2014 Quanta Magazine article on Martin Hairer which I found interesting. https://www.quantamagazine.org/hearing-music-in-noise-martin...

One thing I learned: he did his work while at Warwick. Warwick is kind of under-estimated among UK universities. It's reasonably well-run (which makes it almost unique), regularly hires smart people, and doesn't have the Brideshead Revisited hangover of Oxbridge.

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Re: Imperial mathematician scoops $3M Breakthrough Prize

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Examples of criticism of the physics prize: https://physicsworld.com/a/breakthrough-prize-criticized-for... http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=11138 http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/08/special-breakthroug...

They are all related to a single award -- 2019 (special) for supergravity.

They are just examples - and intended as counter to the "ignorant" accusation which implies there was no truth to the idea of criticism.

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Britain has a whole clutch of universities which are global research powerhouses but are scorned as boring redbricks (or whatever) by most of the locals and unheard of to most people internationally.

'...unheard of to most people internationally.' Taking this point further, I note there's a huge Anglo-Saxon bias in the prestige of Universities. I don't know why this is. I say this having studied at Oxford and Cambridge and noticed how 'unfair' it was that many French and German universities had undergraduate bodies with even higher selection standards, yet few people internationally would have heard of them. It s…

Harvard and Oxbridge are world-class research universities, not just good undergraduate universities.

For selective undergraduate universities, there’s a whole bunch of “elite” universities in Asia — eg the IITs in India, or Tsinghua & Peking in China, or NUS in Singapore.

If someone asked me about Germany, Heidelberg probably comes to mind.

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