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Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Post by pavel_lishin »

Cushman wrote: post #109
pavel_lishin wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are unemployed; therefore you have no salary. This is somewhat akin to placing "yes, please" under the "sex" column of a questionaire.

I'm not sure I understand— how does the fact that I'm unemployed, and therefore have no salary, negate the fact that I have no salary? Are you trying to distinguish between "no salary" and "$0 salary"? They feel pretty equivalent to me. Again, this is an informal salary pool for HN users. I'm an HN user, and my yearly income, taking into consideration my no stock options, no bonuses, no salary, and no other non-salar…

They are as equivalent as an integer value of 0 and a NULL value are.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Post by pavel_lishin »

tlrobinson wrote: post #132

Perhaps make a public version that asks for more information and automatically generate pools when enough have submitted data for a particular segment (company, location, title, years experience, degree, etc)

That very quickly removes anonymity. I might be the only guy whose title is actually Software Developer - but we're a company with eight employees, five of whom I can see if I swivel my head.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Post by pavel_lishin »

jhamburger wrote: post #101
pavel_lishin wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice to see that I'm about where I expect to be.

I'm in the middle, thought I'd be more at the bottom. Was happy about that for a second until I realized that being at the bottom would actually be a good thing.

How would that be a good thing?

(Assuming that not all of the top ten entries are bullshit. $700695550? HAHAHAH, hilarious, guys.)

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Post by run4yourlives »

olalonde wrote: post #128
run4yourlives wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that (something most HR firms have known for decades) people inflate their salaries pretty consistently. If you want to know what people are making, you don't ask them, you ask their employers.

Looks like you missed the previous thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2436147

So, I've been downmodded reddit style but for the life of me, I can't figure out exactly what part of this previous thread disputes the point that employees will overstate their salaries when asked, hence any representation of asking people their salaries is flawed from the start.

There is a reason large HR firms poll employers and not employees, as I said.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Post by akronim »

IgorPartola wrote: post #41
pstack wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work for a company with well over 100,000 employees, but if I gave my salary, title, and years experience (and as someone else noted, especially if I added my location), I wouldn't be anonymous. To my employer, at least. It would be trivial for them to narrow down the information to being provided by a very small number of people - if not the exact person. I don't see this flying, where I work though. Even among th…

Just one correction: your employer will also know exactly who you are by just your salary alone. Chances are not everyone is making the same amount and if you say you make 100,760,000 rubles, it's easy enough to just look it up. Your co-workers of course don't have this info. I personally liked the other trick better: the one that gives you the average salary. Or maybe median is more appropriate. The point is that it…

The median can also be an actual salary, which may or may not give it away.
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