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> single threaded performance is even still important for games. I'm looking at you, TF2 & PCSX2.
>TF2 Is Team Fortress 2 really that single-thread bound?
Does it really matter?
AMD Announces Ryzen “Zen 3” and Radeon “RDNA2” Presentations for October
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Re: AMD Announces Ryzen “Zen 3” and Radeon “RDNA2” Presentations for October
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I have had perfect working VFIO setups with both the 1070 and 1080ti from nVidia, there are many comprehensive guides and working around the driver error code 43 is quite trivial.
That's nice but an error thats designed to fuck me as a customer is a good reason not to buy from that company, and the general state of nvidia drivers on linux makes me not want to chose them for a new build. Nonetheless, i'm glad to hear you got it working, it sure is a fun thing to do.
> the general state of nvidia drivers on linux
... is great? They have been well supported for decades, has working drivers for every GPU on release day and even 10+ year old cards get updated drivers for new kernels / X servers whereas AMD takes months/years to have usable drivers in a stable kernel.
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#193This is an announcement of an announcement. Those are off topic here. There's no harm in waiting. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
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Apple Silicon will contain an Apple-designed GPU, so it might soon be irrelevant for Mac users what AMD has to offer.
I highly suspect Apple will still ship (and support) AMD GPUs - maybe for the iMac Pro and Mac Pro. I doubt that Apple Silicon GPUs will be close to the performance to AMD/NVidias flagships. And I assume the market share for iMac/Mac Pro is just not that big for Apple to invest in competing with AMD/Nvidia on the Highend Segment.
>And I assume the market share for iMac/Mac Pro is just not that big for Apple to invest in competing with AMD/Nvidia on the Highend Segment.
Well it is the same argument for CPU as well. Shipment volume dont make much sense for a Custom CPU in those TDP.
But it really seems they are going All in. Custom CPU, GPU and likely NPU on all of their platform.
Re: AMD Announces Ryzen “Zen 3” and Radeon “RDNA2” Presentations for October
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That's nice but an error thats designed to fuck me as a customer is a good reason not to buy from that company, and the general state of nvidia drivers on linux makes me not want to chose them for a new build. Nonetheless, i'm glad to hear you got it working, it sure is a fun thing to do.
> the general state of nvidia drivers on linux ... is great? They have been well supported for decades, has working drivers for every GPU on release day and even 10+ year old cards get updated drivers for new kernels / X servers whereas AMD takes months/years to have usable drivers in a stable kernel.
Is that so? I always here: stay away from nvidia on Linux, especially but not limited to using Wayland. Is that truly not the case?
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> the general state of nvidia drivers on linux ... is great? They have been well supported for decades, has working drivers for every GPU on release day and even 10+ year old cards get updated drivers for new kernels / X servers whereas AMD takes months/years to have usable drivers in a stable kernel.
Is that so? I always here: stay away from nvidia on Linux, especially but not limited to using Wayland. Is that truly not the case?
Well, my experience [1] has been nearly perfect, certainly much better than what I've had with AMD. Nvidia has been pretty much plug&play for me for a long time, with very few issues.
For Wayland yes, Nvidia is using a different approach than AMD/Intel so most desktop environments don't support the Nvidia way, resulting in a poor experience. That said, Wayland desktops as a whole are still quite some time away from reaching feature parity with X, so I'm not too worried just yet.
[1] For reference, I've been using Linux (and only Linux) on the desktop for ~18 years.
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I think you're overestimating the thermal pollution. A human is 100W-120W. The Zen 3 is about 180-220W. That pales to comparison to the cost of cooling a home where air conditioning systems have 36,000BTU or 10,000W.
Unless your AC is designed specifically with your PC in mind, and is adequately sized for your house (not a guarantee), a hot, noisy PC or laptop still makes its local area uncomfortable.
Most homes with central AC have adjustable vents, many have baffles or zones. It's trivial to tweak your airflow to boost cooling to the room with a gaming pc.
Ceiling fans are another great option for homogenizing the temperature of a room.
You don't need to build your climate control systems specifically with a PC in mind, they're designed to be adjusted.
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless your AC is designed specifically with your PC in mind, and is adequately sized for your house (not a guarantee), a hot, noisy PC or laptop still makes its local area uncomfortable.
Most homes with central AC have adjustable vents, many have baffles or zones. It's trivial to tweak your airflow to boost cooling to the room with a gaming pc. Ceiling fans are another great option for homogenizing the temperature of a room. You don't need to build your climate control systems specifically with a PC in mind, they're designed to be adjusted.
Honestly I've never lived in a house or apartment that gave enough hot or cold air to the right rooms. Even with baffles open or closed, there are always super hot rooms and super cold rooms. This is exacerbated by having a high power PC (or, before 2020, a party with a lot of people).
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Yes single threaded perf is still important, but really only if you have top-end GPUs. 8 - 12 threads is where multi-threaded gaming gains seem to wane at bit, which might make sense given last console cycle's architectural optimizations. Once you're at 8 - 12 threads frequency starts becoming more important. Most recent Intel K CPUs can hit 5GHz+. The 10900K is still the best performing gaming CPU out there, and 808…
Where do you consider the top-end to start in Nvidia's lineup? I know that gets a bit awkward to answer since we're not far from being able to buy 30xx cards, so probably best to just pretend we don't know about those for this question.
2080 Super / 2080 Ti. Really seems like you need to be pushing the cutting edge to justify a top-end consumer CPU. If you're spending the money on a 2080 Ti class of card, then you should also be spending money on the best CPU to drive it, though when you're at the top-end the money/performance ratio starts getting significantly more biased towards the money side.