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Post by withinboredom »

brokenmachine wrote: post #263
Hamuko wrote: post #148

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> I use around ~200-300 GB/month Pretty sure I use more than that in a day.

That's a lot of linux isos to download per day. Seriously, why would you use that much data per day for? Even getting full blu-rays you wouldn't be able to watch that many.

I was once working on some automation stuff once. I did, in fact, download 4tb worth of (the exact same) linux ISO in a day. From my house.

Luckily it was over fiber and through a corporate VPN and I barely noticed it. But I was shocked when I saw the usage on my router later that month.

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Post by andirk »

gruez wrote: post #308
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #288

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> It's true that trying to buy/sell bitcoins via an exchange will subject you to AML requirements, but in-person transactions won't. Nobody does bitcoin transactions in person, at least not in America and not anyone I know. I have several bitcoins and the only way to use them is through an exchange like coinbase, who require the same identity documents that a bank does. You could argue “but you just have to find vend…

>Nobody does bitcoin transactions in person, at least not in America and not anyone I know. https://localbitcoins.com/ >You could argue “but you just have to find vendors who accept bitcoin!” But with 3 bitcoin I won’t find enough vendors to spend it on. There are also bitcoin-for-gift-card stores, which vastly expands your vendor options.

And Overstock accepts BTC and isnt famous for over-working and under-paying their employees.

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Post by abandonliberty »

cogman10 wrote: post #489
Spivak wrote: post #471

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I doubt working from home changes all that much. The pattern for most office workloads is still almost all pull. More VoIP is a not insignificant change but it still isn't the same kind of traffic that torrents put down.

Upload is pretty heavy with video chat. However, it's relatively easy to detect from an ISP's standpoint. Almost all the upload will be to a single IP address of a known video conference provider (Zoom, teams, whatever google is doing now, facebook, etc).

Yes, any decent ISP has already worked with zoom, google, teams, etc. to optimize the network.

The real question is whether they care enough about torrents to do anything about it.

https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/stat/US/daily

Given that 0.31% of internet users torrent, maybe?

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Post by abandonliberty »

octoberfranklin wrote: post #368
LordDragonfang wrote: post #239

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Not a viable solution in the US. Most ISPs operate on exclusivity agreements, and like 90% of users effectively have only a single choice of ISP for internet of a reasonable speed. A better solution would be to have rules to make that kind of throttling illegal, but we've seen how that played out.

> 90% of users effectively have only a single choice of ISP for internet of a reasonable speed Which is mainly because we have privatized roads here in the USA. Yes, you read that right. The "gold standard" is underground fiber, which lies in the public right-of-way yet is 100% privately owned with no "duty to serve" like the electric utility has. Oftentimes the fiber owner doesn't even have to dig up the dirt -- if…

New highways are going up everywhere - straight to each person's home!

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Post by em-bee »

efreak wrote: post #555
em-bee wrote: post #290

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i had per gb pricing in new zealand. the key feature to address your issue was that i could set an upper limit, so, say start throttling the connection once i reach $50. that's the same that other ISPs would do anyways once i reached a certain amount of usage, but with this ISP i decided the limit and i could change it at any time. the price was competitive too. other ISPs charged $70 per month, and had a limit of 50…

It's unfortunate that cellular providers don't offer this. I get around it by setting my data connection to prefer 3g. It helps with a 500mb limit (data is expensive on cheap plans), but it'd be nice to be able to throttle apps individually (no, I do not want video ads to be downloaded, but internet connectivity is required for the app to work online. A HN client with webview, for example)

years ago i came across per gb pricing but the cost was insane. it was essentially: prepay your usage or we charge you 10 times as much as the prepay would have cost you.

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Post by brokenmachine »

Hamuko wrote: post #365
brokenmachine wrote: post #263

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That's a lot of linux isos to download per day. Seriously, why would you use that much data per day for? Even getting full blu-rays you wouldn't be able to watch that many.

It's more up than down.

Bless you, good sir.

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Post by int_19h »

adamsea wrote: post #547
Muromec wrote: post #396

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> Does this hypothetical situation you describe exist anywhere outside of the hypothetical situation posited by a character in a Neal Stephenson novel? That indeed is a bunch of real situations that have happened to me in 2014-2015 and some of that is still a thing. Check your privileges, sweet summer child. Like seriously — for the first 30 years of my life it was outright illegal to have a bank account in a foreign…

Fair. I don't know much about this world. But, like, the classic "society could collapse" fear-and-doubt, doom-and-gloom, grab-the-gold-and-the-burner-laptop-and-the-ammo argument can be used for just about anything. Heck, even when society actually is collapsing, the argument isn't actually that great an argument! I'm not even arguing that cryptocurrency couldn't have value in the scenario you describe. Just that ge…

The government doesn't have to collapse for BTC to be useful for this (indeed, if it did, it'd likely bring down the infrastructure that BTC runs on!).

You just need to be in a situation where the law prohibits, or somehow restricts or severely taxes, the money transfer itself, or the use of that money to procure something you need.

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Post by int_19h »

IcePic wrote: post #454
adwn wrote: post #405

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> Please, inform yourself about the war and strife that is occurring outside your own bubble. User adamsea is informing himself, that's why he's asking a question here.

Yeah, I didn't see the questioning as "is there really war someplace right now?" but rather "is there really a place where you (or your grandparents) can get bread and milk for bitcoins when normal money collapsed?"

We were specifically talking about BTC as a way to transfer money, as opposed to being used as money itself. I can't think of any place where you'd buy bread with BTC, but there are a few where you might be receiving BTC transfers, cashing them out locally, and using that money. A hawala based on blockchain rather than pure trust, so to speak.

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Post by fit2rule »

int_19h wrote: post #568
IcePic wrote: post #454

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Yeah, I didn't see the questioning as "is there really war someplace right now?" but rather "is there really a place where you (or your grandparents) can get bread and milk for bitcoins when normal money collapsed?"

We were specifically talking about BTC as a way to transfer money, as opposed to being used as money itself. I can't think of any place where you'd buy bread with BTC, but there are a few where you might be receiving BTC transfers, cashing them out locally, and using that money. A hawala based on blockchain rather than pure trust, so to speak.

You can buy anything, from anyone, with bitcoin. All it takes is two bitcoin users.

Just because people are starving behind economic blockades and sanctions and mafia hell, doesn't mean they don't RTFM.

(Oh, and you can use BTC on the street, all over the world.)

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Post by spockz »

nabla9 wrote: post #131
spockz wrote: post #115

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IANAL, but afaik this depends on whether the legislation is English law or Latin law from origin. Where Latin law is more about the intent and english, and therefore US law, is more about the letter of the law. Perhaps the distinction is along a different axis but this is how I remember.

You are thinking about common law (originated in England) vs civil law (based on Roman law) In both systems intent is very important in criminal cases. The real difference is between criminal law and contract law. In contract law. In contract law the intention is fixed by the language of the contract document. It matters less if matter if one party didn't intent to violate the contract. It is what it is.

Thank you for clarifying this. Do you have a link to some overview material on the differences between laws in different countries? Is the distinction between criminal and contract law the same in every region?
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