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Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by bdcravens »

njhaveri wrote: post #31
sjroot wrote: post #5

This looks amazing. I am so glad that you kept it as close to the native Mail experience as possible. My only question relates to payment. This is an app that I would gladly pay a solid price to own (in the ballpark of $50?). I would _much_ prefer that over a subscription model. Because the site mentions eventual payment, but doesn't specify a pricing model, would you be willing to elaborate on your intentions?

Thanks! So, I don't know exactly what the pricing model will be yet, but I definitely hear your feedback on this topic, and I'm looking at pretty much every option :) My intention is to build a sustainable long-term business, and deliver a continuous/regular stream of updates (e.g. see the Release Notes at https://mimestream.com/releases ), so the pricing model will need to support that goal.

I'm on board with the pricing model creating sustainability. Some guidance towards that point would be ideal, as I would be very frustrated if I invested in using a piece of software only to receive sticker shock and needing to throw that effort away. (Been burned by more than a few promising dev tools and services that did black box betas)

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by nguyenkien »

njhaveri wrote: post #2

Hi HN! In the past, I spent over 7 years working on Apple Mail, and today I am really excited to share a new email client I'm building: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail. Mimestream is written in Swift, and uses AppKit+SwiftUI for a clean, stock appearance. It's designed to be fast, lightweight, and use a minimal amount of disk space. Mimestream's advantages over using the Gmail web interface includes…

Any plan to support Outlook.com?

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by njhaveri »

kristofferR wrote: post #68

Great app, looks really neat. One criticism though, the swiping is incredibly annoying right now. You have to swipe an almost painful amount to archive emails without a click, it should require less than half the swipe-distance of what it does now. Look at how little swiping Chrome needs to go back to the previous page, and emulate that.

Yeah, I've heard this a few times now. This is the standard AppKit NSTableView swipe action, but I agree it's not tuned very well – I'll look into improving this this.

One tip: by default, the Delete key is mapped to Archive (though you can change that in Preferences to be Trash if you prefer that). A little faster than swiping.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by bdcravens »

antaviana wrote: post #74
njhaveri wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! So, I don't know exactly what the pricing model will be yet, but I definitely hear your feedback on this topic, and I'm looking at pretty much every option :) My intention is to build a sustainable long-term business, and deliver a continuous/regular stream of updates (e.g. see the Release Notes at https://mimestream.com/releases ), so the pricing model will need to support that goal.

IMHO, if you are looking for long-term business, you need to go the subscription-only route. Probably $19/year. Don't offer permanent licenses, it will add complexity to purchase and support. You do not want a users with a product of yours with a vulnerability they are not entitled to update. A subscription-only model will allow you to focus on only the last build which everyone will be entitled to download, greatly…

I agree with the idea of a subscription model, but $19/year is way too low.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by arvindch »

wasd wrote: post #78

I use Superhuman. I can see myself switching over to Mimestream. One of my recent complaints is the lack of deep integration with GSuite. If you can match the speed & shortcuts AND integrate deeply with GSuite, I think you have something really compelling. > The app is a traditional email client that makes direct connections to Gmail and stores your data on your Mac. There are no intermediary servers with access to y…

Reading the posted website, the app positions itself as privacy-first and blocks 50+ pixel trackers.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by njhaveri »

njkleiner wrote: post #64

Does it support sending from a custom domain connected to Gmail, like the web interface?

Yes, Gmail aliases are supported and automatically synced (e.g. I have my old ISP email address set up as an alias). G Suite accounts on custom domains are also supported.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by njhaveri »

thomaspaulmann wrote: post #66

It’s wonderful to see more native macOS apps popping up recently. Having a great Gmail client is certainly one of the nicest I’ve seen lately! What’s your stand on the latest changes announced at this year’s WWDC for Mac development?

I'm very excited about the continued evolution of SwiftUI, as well as Apple Silicon! I think these are both great moves for the Mac, and while there are some aspects of the Big Sur UI I'm not totally sold on, I think these will be refined over the coming years. I'm hoping for way more new Mac apps with SwiftUI and Catalyst making it easier for iOS developers to write Mac apps!

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by z3ncyberpunk »

darklion wrote: post #11

The application itself looks absolutely amazing, and the authors should be commended for it. That said, the FAQ mentions that the for-profit model is designed to avoid ads in the client and to "take a strong stance on privacy", which is a little bit disingenuous given that the client exclusively relies on an email service provided by the world's largest advertiser and email data miner. Yes, Mimestream itself isn't us…

No, it looks just like every other cookie cutter apple app..
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