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Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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This looks really nice and runs great. Does the GMail API let you tap in to the "Important" tag?

Yes, it does! Flagging messages as important/unimportant is already supported in the code, but the feature is currently disabled in the UI. I plan to enable it once I add sections support to the Inbox to match up to Gmail's Priority Inbox feature.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Hi HN! In the past, I spent over 7 years working on Apple Mail, and today I am really excited to share a new email client I'm building: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail. Mimestream is written in Swift, and uses AppKit+SwiftUI for a clean, stock appearance. It's designed to be fast, lightweight, and use a minimal amount of disk space. Mimestream's advantages over using the Gmail web interface includes…

This is a great point: "There are no intermediary servers with access to your account or copies of your messages." A number of popular email clients use intermediary servers and that's a complete deal breaker for me. I'd argue that should be a deal breaker for almost anyone. I'm not a security expert, but as far as I can tell, for most people the single biggest security vulnerability is an attacker gaining access to…

I never quite understood what the value add was for email-client developers to use intermediary servers. Is it to gather usage telemetry or something else?

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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I've been using the beta for a while and I'm happy to see it land here on HN. The two things I love most about Mimestream are: 1. It's wicked fast (seriously) 2. It has Gmail style shortcuts The only thing I wish it had was a generic IMAP support for some of my other accounts. Either way I've been liking it!

Thanks! IMAP account support is something I would really like to add (and Mimestream already uses IMAP for some specific operations where it is a better fit), but from past experience I know that it is complicated ;) I'm also really keen on adding support for JMAP and Office 365 I the future.

Excited that you're considering JMAP! Hopefully it solves some of the pain-points of implementing IMAP and makes it easier to deliver a great UX. If e.g. Mimestream can deliver as good a UX with a Fastmail account (or Cyrus IMAP or Dovecot installation) as it does with a Gmail account, I think it will help the independent email ecosystem. (Though there is a big headwind, so I understand focusing on Gmail now.)

Edit: downloaded the beta. Will give it a shot with my work G Suite account.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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The simplicity reminds me of Sparrow for Mac [1]. One of the best email apps ever made! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparrow_(email_client)

When I was still on Gmail in 2012 or so (?) I really really loved that app!

Actually, I’d easily pay $25 or even more for a similar app, for Fastmail.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Great app, looks really neat.

One criticism though, the swiping is incredibly annoying right now. You have to swipe an almost painful amount to archive emails without a click, it should require less than half the swipe-distance of what it does now. Look at how little swiping Chrome needs to go back to the previous page, and emulate that.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great point: "There are no intermediary servers with access to your account or copies of your messages." A number of popular email clients use intermediary servers and that's a complete deal breaker for me. I'd argue that should be a deal breaker for almost anyone. I'm not a security expert, but as far as I can tell, for most people the single biggest security vulnerability is an attacker gaining access to…

I never quite understood what the value add was for email-client developers to use intermediary servers. Is it to gather usage telemetry or something else?

Pessimistically for telemetry, but I suspect some of them are Javascript apps in a lightweight shell that have actual technical difficulties making a TCP IMAP connection.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Thanks for releasing this. I've been looking for a Mailplane alternative for a while, ever since Gmail started becoming a resource hog when they forced everyone onto their new interface. Is there a chance you could recompile this to support 10.14? I'll most likely not be upgrading from Mojave for the foreseeable future, until my 2013 MacBook Pro stops working and I'm forced to get something new.

Sadly, no. Mimestream already uses SwiftUI for parts of the UI, and SwiftUI requires Catalina. I plan to release an iOS/iPadOS version in the future, so Mimestream will be investing even more heavily into SwiftUI. At some point later this year, Big Sur will become a requirement, too. I sympathize with those that remain on Mojave, especially those who need to run 32-bit apps, but as a 1-man project, it seemed like a necessary tradeoff to make.
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