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Re: Chef to be acquired by Progress

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Post by PaulWaldman » Tue, Sep 08, 2020, 12:59 PM UTC

Progress has an interesting angle of providing a suite of developer tools with their products crossing the categories of both design-time and run-time. There doesn't seem to be too much focus at this point though, in comparison to JetBrains for example. I'd imagine more acquisitions are coming.

They have the Telerik suite of tools, which is used by .Net developers, but how many .Net developers use Chef?

Re: Chef to be acquired by Progress

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Post by samayylmao » Tue, Sep 08, 2020, 1:00 PM UTC

gostsamo wrote: post #25

mathattack wrote: post #21

What’s the track record of Progress buying companies? Is it a case of Oracle or IBM sucking the life out of them due to lack of investment, and living off the installed base? Or something more positive?

I have friends working for Telerik which was bought by Progress. They feel pretty happy so far and Telerik are doing well, though they had to drop native script after react occupied the entire compile js2native space.

My organization is actually moving away from Telerik after ten years of use.

My biggest complaint is how unresponsive they are to fixing bugs. After reported it may be months or a year before you see it fixed.

What I dont know is if that is common in that "ui component" sector?

Re: Chef to be acquired by Progress

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Post by thspimpolds » Tue, Sep 08, 2020, 1:06 PM UTC

schoolornot wrote: post #24

purpleidea wrote: post #19

It's confirmed then. Absolutely nobody wants to buy Puppet. Anyone know why that fell through?

They made some serious missteps imho re: strategy. releasing and then not marketing razor server when everyone was shifting to VMs, halting development of the open source dashboard, not really investing in containerized environments, kubernetes, etc.

I actually miss using Razor. That was the best Pxeboot based system I have run into

Re: Chef to be acquired by Progress

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Post by fooqux » Tue, Sep 08, 2020, 1:06 PM UTC

I know nothing of Progress. Are they OSS friendly? I'd hate to see some of the OSS chef-managed tools die on the vine because of this.

Re: Chef to be acquired by Progress

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Post by z9e » Tue, Sep 08, 2020, 1:08 PM UTC

What is Progress’s track record with open source? Recently a lot of people have had to switch to Cinc if they wanted to continue using Chef without paying an enterprise license.

As one of those people, I just hope they don’t try to close the doors on the Cinc community.

Re: Chef to be acquired by Progress

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Post by bufordtwain » Tue, Sep 08, 2020, 1:09 PM UTC

mathattack wrote: post #21

What’s the track record of Progress buying companies? Is it a case of Oracle or IBM sucking the life out of them due to lack of investment, and living off the installed base? Or something more positive?

Telerik seems to be trucking right along and it's been years since they were acquired. I've seen no drop in the quality of their products and support so far.

Re: Chef to be acquired by Progress

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Post by dcolkitt » Tue, Sep 08, 2020, 1:10 PM UTC

mathattack wrote: post #3

$200mm for a $70mm in revenue company seems very cheap, no?

The S&P 500 in aggregate is valued at 2.4 price-to-revenue.

Re: Chef to be acquired by Progress

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Post by fooqux » Tue, Sep 08, 2020, 1:13 PM UTC

purpleidea wrote: post #19

It's confirmed then. Absolutely nobody wants to buy Puppet. Anyone know why that fell through?

From my viewpoint, Puppet's portfolio is comprised of mostly half-baked stuff. You have Puppet itself, which is decent, and then an almost Google-level of weird stuff. They keep announcing new products but so far nothing seems to be sticking and they're all ludicrously expensive IMHO.

Meanwhile, their core technology is kind of a dead end. More and more people are looking to manage containers and other serverless type things, rather than managing fleets of VMs. They're not in the same boat as companies like VmWare, but they're in the same flotilla. If somebody does buy them, it'll probably be an act of dinosaurs mating and not much else.

Re: Chef to be acquired by Progress

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Post by locusm » Tue, Sep 08, 2020, 1:13 PM UTC

Wow, I was a Progress DBA back in the day. They always felt very under the radar till they acquired Telerik.

Re: Chef to be acquired by Progress

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Post by z9e » Tue, Sep 08, 2020, 1:13 PM UTC

PaulWaldman wrote: post #31

Progress has an interesting angle of providing a suite of developer tools with their products crossing the categories of both design-time and run-time. There doesn't seem to be too much focus at this point though, in comparison to JetBrains for example. I'd imagine more acquisitions are coming. They have the Telerik suite of tools, which is used by .Net developers, but how many .Net developers use Chef?

Anecdotally, I don’t know anyone in the windows / .NET world that is using chef, or have used it and stuck with it. Most people on that platform seem to gravitate to Chocolatey. That doesn’t mean there aren’t any using Chef primarily but it’s pretty rare it seems.