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Re: BitTorrent v2

#31

Post by oblio »

yepthatsreality wrote: post #22
xibalba wrote: post #11

To me, BitTorrent feels a lot like Blockchain: interesting tech that doesn't seem to be able to find a practical and useful application (proportionate to the attendant hype). Which is not to say that either can't, they just haven't yet. Why? EDIT: while I don't (yet) consider myself delirious, responses to this comment have illuminated how little I know about the influence and application of BitTorrent. In other word…

Why...? BitTorrent has been influential in lots of applications. If you really need proof that BitTorrent can move milestones, it help perpetuate sites like thepiratebay.org and assisted in the advent of modern day streaming services that both the music and movie industry neglected for years. It is also a central influence for p2p networking and file sharing.

Yeah, but it's not used anymore, from what I know. Few places use it for distribution, I guess they don't consider it worth the hassle. Blizzard was using it to distribute binaries.

I guess mobile internet was its downfall as few people want to seed from a mobile connection.

Re: BitTorrent v2

#32

Post by armitron »

m00dy wrote: post #20

hmm, looks like still no support for data streaming :(

Nothing stops you from downloading pieces in a specific order that allows for streaming. It's the client that determines order, not the bittorrent protocol.

Re: BitTorrent v2

#33

Post by mac01021 »

proverbialbunny wrote: post #25

It feels like this isn't a large enough leap forward. It would be nice if BitTorrent v2 made it harder for ISPs to identify what is bit torrent traffic. AT&T artificially slows down upload speeds.

Why don't ISPs bill by the gigabyte and be done with it?

Re: BitTorrent v2

#35

Post by jbverschoor »

mac01021 wrote: post #33
proverbialbunny wrote: post #25

It feels like this isn't a large enough leap forward. It would be nice if BitTorrent v2 made it harder for ISPs to identify what is bit torrent traffic. AT&T artificially slows down upload speeds.

Why don't ISPs bill by the gigabyte and be done with it?

BC billshock scares people away. It would set us back to the early '90s

Re: BitTorrent v2

#36

Post by wwwhizz »

mac01021 wrote: post #33
proverbialbunny wrote: post #25

It feels like this isn't a large enough leap forward. It would be nice if BitTorrent v2 made it harder for ISPs to identify what is bit torrent traffic. AT&T artificially slows down upload speeds.

Why don't ISPs bill by the gigabyte and be done with it?

So watching Netflix and YouTube gets more expensive? No, thanks. I'm fine with European net-neutrality and pay for bandwidth.

Re: BitTorrent v2

#37

Post by 101008 »

mac01021 wrote: post #33
proverbialbunny wrote: post #25

It feels like this isn't a large enough leap forward. It would be nice if BitTorrent v2 made it harder for ISPs to identify what is bit torrent traffic. AT&T artificially slows down upload speeds.

Why don't ISPs bill by the gigabyte and be done with it?

It would be horrible to live in a world like that. Imagine deciding to watch a shorter film on Netflix because you will pay less.

Re: BitTorrent v2

#38

Post by freedomben »

mac01021 wrote: post #33
proverbialbunny wrote: post #25

It feels like this isn't a large enough leap forward. It would be nice if BitTorrent v2 made it harder for ISPs to identify what is bit torrent traffic. AT&T artificially slows down upload speeds.

Why don't ISPs bill by the gigabyte and be done with it?

Because customers lose their minds with that model, largely as a result of conditioning that "internet" is an unlimited resource (which of course it is when instantaneous demand Personally I understand the economics around it, but still don't like the idea of paying per GB. I would end up skipping some Netflix and would get mad at kids for playing Netflix to an empty room (much like I currently get mad when they leave the lights on in an empty room). It's nice on a personal level to avoid that.

Re: BitTorrent v2

#39

Post by armitron »

oblio wrote: post #31
yepthatsreality wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why...? BitTorrent has been influential in lots of applications. If you really need proof that BitTorrent can move milestones, it help perpetuate sites like thepiratebay.org and assisted in the advent of modern day streaming services that both the music and movie industry neglected for years. It is also a central influence for p2p networking and file sharing.

Yeah, but it's not used anymore, from what I know. Few places use it for distribution, I guess they don't consider it worth the hassle. Blizzard was using it to distribute binaries. I guess mobile internet was its downfall as few people want to seed from a mobile connection.

There are vast data archives exposed through private trackers that work on top of bittorrent. This isn't widely known due to their private, invite-only (and in some cases, entirely closed) nature but the fact remains that these exist and are fundamental in multiple, widely divergent communities.
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