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BitTorrent v2

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Re: BitTorrent v2

#11
To me, BitTorrent feels a lot like Blockchain: interesting tech that doesn't seem to be able to find a practical and useful application (proportionate to the attendant hype). Which is not to say that either can't, they just haven't yet. Why?

EDIT: while I don't (yet) consider myself delirious, responses to this comment have illuminated how little I know about the influence and application of BitTorrent. In other words, I retract the above opinion.

Re: BitTorrent v2

#12
post #3

I've written a torrent client, and I'm skeptical than v2 will ever catch on. While it does solve some minor problems, it's not a large enough leap forward to justify the costs.

From the perspective of the client would it be a drop in replacement like changing a static library or a from the ground up rework?

Re: BitTorrent v2

#13

It would be nice to have a torrent system where noone that is uploading has all the data for a specific torrent (or at least they arent uploading the whole file to any specfic person... probably would be harder to prosecute in the event that some files become illegal)... You could take 1% of the billonaire's fortune and give it to the "victims" and everyone would be happy.

Uploading parts of illegal files is equivalent from a security perspective. It seems like there's no advantage to your proposal.

The Whonix wiki has an incredible amount of information on topics such as this: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Documentation

Basically, it's very hard to protect the security of users when a government seeks to prosecute dissidents. There's a lot to take into account. A simple "we saw an upload from IP address x.y.z.w containing " will be enough to hang whoever it is.

On second thought, I guess it would be a nice addition to let users control which files they're seeding, rather than the whole torrent. I'm just not sure it's enough to get them off the hook in the event of legal troubles.

Re: BitTorrent v2

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post #4

It would be nice to have a torrent system where noone that is uploading has all the data for a specific torrent (or at least they arent uploading the whole file to any specfic person... probably would be harder to prosecute in the event that some files become illegal)... You could take 1% of the billonaire's fortune and give it to the "victims" and everyone would be happy.

No one can have all the files and BitTorrent works just fine. Though, I don't see why anyone wouldn't want the whole file. What's the point if you can't actually use what you downloaded?

You could or could not have all files, but you would never upload a whole file to a single user (ie: part of a file is possibly meaningless if you upload random chunks)

Re: BitTorrent v2

#16

It would be nice to have a torrent system where noone that is uploading has all the data for a specific torrent (or at least they arent uploading the whole file to any specfic person... probably would be harder to prosecute in the event that some files become illegal)... You could take 1% of the billonaire's fortune and give it to the "victims" and everyone would be happy.

>probably would be harder to prosecute in the event that some files become illegal

Cynically I'd assume they'd just use it to add a conspiracy to commit a crime charge to the list since you technically need to coordinate with other people.

Re: BitTorrent v2

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post #12
post #3

I've written a torrent client, and I'm skeptical than v2 will ever catch on. While it does solve some minor problems, it's not a large enough leap forward to justify the costs.

From the perspective of the client would it be a drop in replacement like changing a static library or a from the ground up rework?

If they used libtorrent, then it would be easy. If they wrote their own system, then it would require a moderate amount of work to chance to v2.

Re: BitTorrent v2

#18

It would be nice to have a torrent system where noone that is uploading has all the data for a specific torrent (or at least they arent uploading the whole file to any specfic person... probably would be harder to prosecute in the event that some files become illegal)... You could take 1% of the billonaire's fortune and give it to the "victims" and everyone would be happy.

Im not sure how that would work technically speaking if there is just a single seeder and leecher, also don't you become an accomplice for helping?

every seeder could technically have all the files but would only share random chunks with each user

Re: BitTorrent v2

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post #11

To me, BitTorrent feels a lot like Blockchain: interesting tech that doesn't seem to be able to find a practical and useful application (proportionate to the attendant hype). Which is not to say that either can't, they just haven't yet. Why? EDIT: while I don't (yet) consider myself delirious, responses to this comment have illuminated how little I know about the influence and application of BitTorrent. In other word…

You mean beside being responsible for ~50% of the global internet traffic in 2009? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent
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