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BitTorrent v2

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Re: BitTorrent v2

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post #11

To me, BitTorrent feels a lot like Blockchain: interesting tech that doesn't seem to be able to find a practical and useful application (proportionate to the attendant hype). Which is not to say that either can't, they just haven't yet. Why? EDIT: while I don't (yet) consider myself delirious, responses to this comment have illuminated how little I know about the influence and application of BitTorrent. In other word…

Why...?

BitTorrent has been influential in lots of applications. If you really need proof that BitTorrent can move milestones, it help perpetuate sites like thepiratebay.org and assisted in the advent of modern day streaming services that both the music and movie industry neglected for years. It is also a central influence for p2p networking and file sharing.

Re: BitTorrent v2

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post #11

To me, BitTorrent feels a lot like Blockchain: interesting tech that doesn't seem to be able to find a practical and useful application (proportionate to the attendant hype). Which is not to say that either can't, they just haven't yet. Why? EDIT: while I don't (yet) consider myself delirious, responses to this comment have illuminated how little I know about the influence and application of BitTorrent. In other word…

Well, both threaten the establishment. Blockchain would basically upend states, with unclear benefits. BitTorrent would allow for very efficient distribution of a lot of data, which can conflict with copyright.

At least BitTorrent is environment friendly :-)

Re: BitTorrent v2

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It would be nice to have a torrent system where noone that is uploading has all the data for a specific torrent (or at least they arent uploading the whole file to any specfic person... probably would be harder to prosecute in the event that some files become illegal)... You could take 1% of the billonaire's fortune and give it to the "victims" and everyone would be happy.

Uploading parts of illegal files is equivalent from a security perspective. It seems like there's no advantage to your proposal. The Whonix wiki has an incredible amount of information on topics such as this: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Documentation Basically, it's very hard to protect the security of users when a government seeks to prosecute dissidents. There's a lot to take into account. A simple "we saw an uploa…

Ideally, you'd want to come up with some way to pack files such that many files share the same chunks. Perhaps you could make the act of sharing (all or most of the) legal and illegal files indistinguishable.

Re: BitTorrent v2

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It feels like this isn't a large enough leap forward. It would be nice if BitTorrent v2 made it harder for ISPs to identify what is bit torrent traffic. AT&T artificially slows down upload speeds.

Re: BitTorrent v2

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post #19
post #11

To me, BitTorrent feels a lot like Blockchain: interesting tech that doesn't seem to be able to find a practical and useful application (proportionate to the attendant hype). Which is not to say that either can't, they just haven't yet. Why? EDIT: while I don't (yet) consider myself delirious, responses to this comment have illuminated how little I know about the influence and application of BitTorrent. In other word…

You mean beside being responsible for ~50% of the global internet traffic in 2009? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent

Yeah, but what's the current number? I'd be surprised if it were more than 5-10% these days. 2009 was 11 years ago, the internet was a much smaller and less regulated place.

Re: BitTorrent v2

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It would be nice to have a torrent system where noone that is uploading has all the data for a specific torrent (or at least they arent uploading the whole file to any specfic person... probably would be harder to prosecute in the event that some files become illegal)... You could take 1% of the billonaire's fortune and give it to the "victims" and everyone would be happy.

Uploading parts of illegal files is equivalent from a security perspective. It seems like there's no advantage to your proposal. The Whonix wiki has an incredible amount of information on topics such as this: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Documentation Basically, it's very hard to protect the security of users when a government seeks to prosecute dissidents. There's a lot to take into account. A simple "we saw an uploa…

One change in the v2 protocol stands out here. "Files that are identical can also more easily be identified across different swarms". Would this per file hash not make it easier for such a government to find illegal material shared by users. It appears v2 is not suitable for sharing of material which could get one in trouble.

Re: BitTorrent v2

#28
post #21

I feel like a lot of the terms has blockchain in nature but they never specifically state it.

Bittorrent was pioneering distributed architecture while bitcoin was still a future thought in Satoshi's mind.

Re: BitTorrent v2

#29
post #20

hmm, looks like still no support for data streaming :(

BitTorrent (v1) supports streaming if your client knows the appropriate way to prioritize packets. I've written a streaming client using libtorrent-rasterbar and it worked fine. What's the problem?

Re: BitTorrent v2

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post #19
post #11

To me, BitTorrent feels a lot like Blockchain: interesting tech that doesn't seem to be able to find a practical and useful application (proportionate to the attendant hype). Which is not to say that either can't, they just haven't yet. Why? EDIT: while I don't (yet) consider myself delirious, responses to this comment have illuminated how little I know about the influence and application of BitTorrent. In other word…

You mean beside being responsible for ~50% of the global internet traffic in 2009? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent

Insofar as the majority of that traffic is likely illegal (in terms of sharing pirated property) I would not consider it useful.
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