So in Korean, the word for "you" is 니가 (pronounced "nee-gah"). Example usage: 니가 언제 먹었어요? (When did you eat? "Nee-gah un-jeh mug-uss-uh-yo") I can't help but wonder if the use of this word would also elicit a similar reaction... EDIT: I briefly forgot this, but there is a similar Korean word "내가" which is "me" or "I", and pronounced "ne-gah". Example usage: 내가 이 밥을 먹었어요. (I ate this food. "Ne-ga ee bap-uhl mug-uss-uh…
Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge
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Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Am I the only one who finds it very ironic that you can't use the "n-word" because it offends the African American community. Yet when you listen to rap music, it's all nigga this and nigga that. No, racists that are upset that it's not socially acceptable to demonstrate their racism this way conplain about this a lot, you aren't the only one. Also, within the African American community there has very long been a v…
> context matters. Yet people get fired even when context is as benign as possible.
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Please don't make speculations like that about HN. I'm pretty sure it's against the rules, and even if it isn't, it doesn't foster good discussions. You can't always know what is the reason a story is or isn't on the front page. For the record, at the moment, this story is the top story on https://news.ycombinator.com/active , which is the main way I personally view HN. So I doubt it's being actively hidden.
Please do not be that condescending towards me or towards anyone else on HN. I am glad that using obscure viewing option, literally absent from anywhere in the interface, works for you. However, majority of people are using HN via default https://news.ycombinator.com/ , and this story is missing from there completely .
It’s not absent or obscure, it’s at the bottom under “lists”.
Also the front page rank is the determined by the number of upvotes divided by time to a low power, times a flagging factor. It’s open sourced.
Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge
#224Honestly, I'm shocked everytime I read this stuff from american universities. Why is this happening? Because it's not the first nor second time that I read about events similar to this one.
It is happening because of power. Students have found that they can bully professors and administrators, and bend them to their personal beliefs. It's a sense of power that, like most forms of power, becomes very intoxicating.
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#226There have been tons of memes about this exact misunderstanding in SAT for a while... The first few times I heard it (as a native English speaker) it made my head turn but it's such a commonly used part of Chinese that after hearing it for the thousandth time you stop hearing it as English. EDIT: After watching the video I have to say that the combination of pronouncing it a bit off and surrounding it with English ma…
It's not like he just threw it into an English sentence the way we often do with French (when it seems the mot juste) though - he was actually talking about the word and its usage!
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#227Honestly, I'm shocked everytime I read this stuff from american universities. Why is this happening? Because it's not the first nor second time that I read about events similar to this one.
Because you have a wave of far leftest SJW activity that is sheltering people from any critical thinking, making "safe spaces" where people become too fragile to engage with anyone of differing or opposing ideologies. Disengaging the context of words and giving them absolute meanings (e.g. the entire master/slave fiasco, as if the words "master" and "slave" or others have inherent evil, as opposed to the context they're used in, or the case with the Chinese word used here in the article).
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Well I think the phrase has been used by people whose views you may or may not agree with, the phenomenon itself has conditioned companies/organisations to immediately roll over at any whiff of a controversy or face a twitter/social media hate mob.
Yep... I didn't mean so much "it's been associated with certain people" as it's been demonized from the start. I think there's a difference between honest people saying honest things - even if those things are incorrect or not fully justified - and people with a history of dog-whistling and flat-out repugnant behaviour using it as a get-out-of-jail-free card. And there is language on both sides that get this treatmen…
That is one point of view. The other point of view is that when you give an organisation (government/large company/ngo/whatever) power to enforce controls on speech, that power could be used for good as well as ill.
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#229I've always found the US obsession with taboo words quite baffling. I used to tease Americans of my acquaintance by pretending to be offended when they said "oh my god" (dildo in French) or nick (fuck.) Context matters a lot in linguistic, and the Sapir-Worff hypothesis is not just unproven, it's almost certainly completely wrong.
I heard one cannot say "disabled", "hearing-impaired", "wheelchair-bound" as those are offensive terms.
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#230Two possible futures for ill-informed over-political correctness: 1. It continues to be pushed by those at the tops of organizations, which leads to a new pseudo-language of baby-talk that is constructed to be as inoffensive as possible. Simultaneously a ‘black market’ counter-culture emerges of those who don’t comply. 2. The entire enterprise collapses under its own weight and exhaustion. People get tired of being o…
It's pushed by the top because it's virtue signaling. To stay silent is to be complicit. Yet at the same time it's a lot cheaper than actual change. And bored administrators can spend money on PR campaigns and harass lecturers and researchers, and go home to their comfy house and continue to vote to support their own lifestyle.
[edit] see also: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-ellis-usc-marsha...