Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge • Hacker News Board

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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Post by nix23 » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 9:54 AM UTC

ianleeclark wrote: post #150

nix23 wrote: post #147

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>because the customer definitely isn't always right That's not the problem, the problem is that a Student should NOT be a Customer but a Student.

> That's not the problem, the problem is that a Student should NOT be a Customer but a Student. Then OP shouldn't point to some amorphous blob of "marxists," just because they're an easy enemy.

True, i hate it when someone thinks Marx wanted the real-world communism of the USSR, his ideas where in fact the opposite. The Communist Party of the USSR where nothing else then the Czarist regime under a different flag, now Russia is a 'Democracy' and again has a Czar.

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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Post by arkadiytehgraet » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 9:55 AM UTC

You can see the same happening here, on HN: this post has been literally hidden from the main page - you won't find it among first 150 entries, despite having relatively high score and number of comments.

I guess moderators hope that if they pretend something does not exist, maybe it will go away.

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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Post by nix23 » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 9:58 AM UTC

ppf wrote: post #158

nix23 wrote: post #145

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Damn you right! Thanks for the big laugh :) Are you watching the Kittens in B/W or are colors allowed?

There are only colours, comrade. Whiteness is not acceptable. Sounds like you need further education.

That thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2AitTPI5U0

Would be sooo illegal then, see i learn fast :)

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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Post by andi999 » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 9:59 AM UTC

himinlomax wrote: post #160

andi999 wrote: post #144

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They didnt have to ask mandarin speakers. The admin agree that it is a mandarin word, but that understandably people got upset because it sounds like an US slur.

> understandably That's far from understandable for the majority of commenters in this thread, myself included.

Exactly. I shd have put it in quotation marks

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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Post by jrh206 » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 10:04 AM UTC

jimhi wrote: post #36

那个 is the chinese equivalent to "uh/um". Just imagine how many times a probably nervous professor would say "uh/um" during a lecture. The professor also is likely not great at english or has a strong accent. Not sure how anyone could mistake this for a racial slur with hateful intent.

The professor isn’t nervous or Chinese - he’s explaining the same thing that you explain

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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Post by pas » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 10:14 AM UTC

__blockcipher__ wrote: post #129

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Students are "like that", because they feel powerless and complicit by slaving away in a virtually for-profit education system, that they see as part of the problem.

They understandably want change, progress, solidarity, etc. Basically think of this as the very very very watered down version of a student protest. After all young adults are the prime age cohort who are sensitive to social issues. This requires no organized subversion.

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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Post by ashildr » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 10:16 AM UTC

This happens if people in power only speak a single language.

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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Post by bananaface » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 10:16 AM UTC

neilv wrote: post #94

bananaface wrote: post #66

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I think you need to be developmentally disabled to genuinely think that foreign language words that resemble curses in your language are offensive. It's not on the professor to do backflips to protect against people looking for excuses to get offended.

I'd say it's not merely a curse word, for reasons I already suggested in the comment to which you're replying: I argue that it's understandably hurtful to some, and is associated with immense, tragic, shameful wrongs towards groups of people. Separately, could you have made your point without saying that anyone who thinks differently than you must be developmentally disabled? Would it have been sufficient to say you…

It's more that I think the only way you can be earnestly offended by something like this is if you're stupid, and I don't think they're stupid. I think they're dishonest. It's not reasonable to be offended by phonemes in Cantonese. I don't think they're sensitive, I think they're lying.

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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Post by gadders » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 10:19 AM UTC

undecisive wrote: post #148

gadders wrote: post #130

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>>Why is this happening? Cancel Culture.

As much as I totally understand the downvoting of this comment, it unfortunately isn't entirely wrong. I desperately want to be an all-in liberal person, and I would rather not have stock phrases in existence that can be misappropriated by the Donald Trump / Katie Hopkins' of the world, but with any knee-jerk reaction from humans there are people who take them to extremes, and this story is one of an increasing numbe…

Well I think the phrase has been used by people whose views you may or may not agree with, the phenomenon itself has conditioned companies/organisations to immediately roll over at any whiff of a controversy or face a twitter/social media hate mob.

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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Post by mayniac » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 10:19 AM UTC

skrebbel wrote: post #135

__blockcipher__ wrote: post #129

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> decades-long subversion campaigns I get where you're coming from, but by phrasing it this way you draw up the image of a secret cabal of influential marxists waging a "campaign" via gullible students. That's not really doing the rest of your argument justice. As always, the much more likely story is that these students are gullible and silly totally by their own means.

>I get where you're coming from, but by phrasing it this way you draw up the image of a secret cabal of influential marxists waging a "campaign" via gullible students.

Probably because the "cultural marxism" conspiracy theory originated from the Nazi conspiracy theory of "cultural bolshevism". The idea that Marxists are subverting Western society is a delusional theory pushed by far-right lunatics.