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Low Doses of LSD Acutely Increase BDNF Blood Plasma Levels in Healthy Volunteers

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Anyone with first hand experience of LSD ?

Yes. A few times (6-7) across several years.

Perception of time is altered (slowd down mostly), you can see intricate pulsating, kaleidoscopic, patterns in ordinary things (flowers, the floor, carpet, etc), you get deep thoughts and feelings (can be a rollercoaster), it greatly enhances music (it's like seeing in color for the first time). Sex on it is not bad either...

Never had a bad trip, ymmv.

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Anyone with first hand experience of LSD ?

I only tried it once. The worst I can remember is finding out the next day that there were this very unhealthy substitutes (such as the N-Bomb) being sold instead of the real thing, so I can't tell if I took actual LSD. The experience was fine. It went through several stages. First it was visual, then more introspective. I felt something I can only describe as being dead, meaning that I felt very aware of being matter, and I thought of that beauty around us that is not alive and is simply indifferent and potentially destructive to life and any sense of purpose. Then at some point I was cleaning some fresh basil to prepare something to eat and I found a caterpillar among the leaves and carried it to the garden. The caterpillar jumped and I felt like an electric shock had gone through my body. Later, while sitting with my friend (also on LSD), I narrated this experience to my friend and I started crying. My voice sometimes sounded robotic to my ears.

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So does exercise.

I skimmed the literature a bit, and the results on this seem to be pretty mixed. Basically, exercise boosts serum BDNF, except when it doesn't. In particular, it doesn't seem to be clear what the necessary conditions are for a sustained effect on BDNF, as opposed to a previously sedentary/untrained person getting a transient boost from a single bout of exercise. One study's [1] introduction summarized it thus (a lot of parenthetical citations removed for brevity/readability):

> Animal studies have implicated the neurotrophin BDNF and the growth factor IGF‐1 in mediating the beneficial effects of exercise on hippocampal function and structure as well as cognition. In humans, findings are less clear since exercise‐induced increases in peripheral BDNF have been consistently shown only immediately after a single bout of aerobic exercise. Studies involving longer exercise interventions (i.e., 6 weeks up to 1 year) have reported mixed results. While the majority of reports have found no changes in circulating BDNF and IGF‐1 at the end of the training period, Zoladz and colleagues (2008) demonstrated increased plasma BDNF after 5 weeks of endurance training in physically active male adults. Further, Leckie et al. (2014) found that 1 year of moderate‐intensity walking significantly elevated serum BDNF only in individuals older than 65 years of age. Lastly, Heisz et al. (2017) reported that, although no group differences in serum BDNF were found following 6 weeks of high‐intensity interval training in young adults, participants with greater fitness improvements had higher serum BDNF levels than their counterparts with lower fitness gains.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6555846/

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Anyone with first hand experience of LSD ?

Yes. Twenty+ years ago. Crazy stuff. I wouldn’t want to take it recreationally, too risky I think. You get truly confused and risk having very bad experiences (I’ve had those and they can be like living a nightmare that you cannot wake up from).

But, it also gave me some interesting experiences, like the confusion of senses. Truly smelling colors was a weird one, one that I remember very vividly. Other than that, it’s lots of fireworks for the mind.

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For me, I don't believe I really ever saw anything that was different than reality, but the attention to my senses was heightened. It was a new curiosity about everything I saw or heard. if you wave your hand in front of your face there's a trail behind it. This sort of thing is heightened. I remember going to a racquetball court and it seems like they were many balls in the court when there actually there was only one. I went on top of a mountain and looked down at the trees below and it was almost like the trees were vibrating with life. I remember the sound of super Mario jumping giving me the giggles because the sound was completely different and interesting and it reverberated through the room. So there is a certain curiosity that is derived from the senses. That was my experience

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Low doses may also prevent Alzheimers from progressing.[1][2] Ayahuasca/DMT[3] and psilocybin[4] may have similar effects.

It's fascinating that a monthly visit to your local shaman may still be more safe and effective for depression, anxiety, and cognitive decline than anything western medicine has been able to produce.

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/abbierosner/2020/02/21/microdos...

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6463489/

[3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6343205/

[4] https://www.beingpatient.com/could-psychedelics-help-treat-a...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the Abstract section it is shown that 20 micrograms does not increase BDNF levels after 2 hours, as opposed to 5 micrograms. It is shown however that it increases after 4 hours. That was a little confusing

And 10 micrograms does not increase it. So 5 and 20 does, but 10 does not?

Or "there is no evidence" 10 ug does.

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Does recovery from brain damage increase the same growth factor?

Just one study, but apparently not. "Plasma BDNF concentrations did not correlate with either short-term fatal outcome or type of injury following severe TBI."[1]

1. Plasma brain-derived neurotrophic factor levels after severe traumatic brain injury. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/02699052.2015.10.... Brain Injury Journal.

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Anyone with first hand experience of LSD ?

I used it at a birthday party a few years ago. My main takeaways were twofold: First, it made me understand the concept of good and bad "vibes" w.r.t. to drug use. It was clear that the experience of taking LSD recreationally in a group of people was a much a social experience as a chemical one. Keeping the "vibe" positive, by playing the right kind of music, staying chill, and saying and doing the right things, was…

Psychological breakthroughs or revelations tend to come while tripping alone or in a small group.
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