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Mathematicians should stop naming things after each other

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Re: Mathematicians should stop naming things after each other

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Tim Sort, Hamming Codes, Huffman Coding, RSA keys, LZW encoding, Duff's Device, Bloom Filter, Carmack's Reverse, awk, linux, git. We have a lot of things named after those that discovered, invented or popularized a structure or technique. Certainly nowhere near as commonly as does mathematics, I will agree. In CS, no doubt, we often end up on the other end, where a single term means different things in different cont…

To some extent that reflects that in programming we encounter a mixture of naming origins between computer science (where naming follows an academic tradition that shares its heritage with Mathematics) and software engineering (where naming follows a tradition closer to that of other engineering tooling, where naming is more like branding - think 'Duck tape' or 'Allen wrench'). Often the closest thing we do to the wh…

Isn't Allen the inventor's name?

Re: Mathematicians should stop naming things after each other

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Tim Sort, Hamming Codes, Huffman Coding, RSA keys, LZW encoding, Duff's Device, Bloom Filter, Carmack's Reverse, awk, linux, git. We have a lot of things named after those that discovered, invented or popularized a structure or technique. Certainly nowhere near as commonly as does mathematics, I will agree. In CS, no doubt, we often end up on the other end, where a single term means different things in different cont…

Page rank. I thought git was named by Linus, and to the extent that it is named after him, it was self awareness of his reputation? I remember when Duff's Device was a neat trick; does anyone still use it these days? Edit: a neat trick, not a bear trick.

Page rank is a funny one, it's named after one of its creators, but also describes what the algorithm does. Kinda like Baker's chocolate (named after Walter Baker, but is popular for baking). I wonder if there are other examples.

Re: Mathematicians should stop naming things after each other

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for example: operating systems, programming languages, human computer interaction, etc. Those topics might seem to have nothing to do with math but all of their components have mathematical underpinnings. Algorithms, data structures, complexity theory, and even the physics of end-to-end latency, colour perception, etc. There probably are some people out there, working in these fields with only a high school math back…

Everyone who completed a physics degree has done at least as much math as a CS degree holder, is physics a subfield of math? (I think there is a discussion to be had about making the distinction "CS" vs "theoretical CS" as the GP comment does, or if it should be "CS" vs some other term ("computing"? feels a bit general))

Physics is not a subfield of math. It has entirely non-mathematical origins (see Aristotelian physics [1]).

Computer science was developed by mathematicians as a study of algorithms, procedures for computing, and methods of abstraction. In the words of Hal Abelson, computer science is not a science and it's not really about computers in the same sense that geometry is not about surveying instruments [2].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotelian_physics

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Op3QLzMgSY

Re: Mathematicians should stop naming things after each other

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Meanings of words drift over time, like, litterally.

Oh wow, I know this isn't what you meant but wouldn't it be great if we could use literally and litterally to mean literally and figuratively??

We can, but everyone uses literally to mean litterally.

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Isn’t this why science deliberately chose Latin for naming? Being a dead language it won’t change meanings over time

I think that’s because when science started to get serious, Latin happened to be the lingua-Franca of those in Europe who could afford to be part of it. Equivalent deal for why we use Arabic numbers.

But Latin was used specifically because is was NOT a common tongue.

Re: Mathematicians should stop naming things after each other

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Yep; check out how the programming community does it! We have descriptive names for things like "Apache", "React", "nginx", "Rust", and "Java"!

These are names for products though, not programming concepts. A more accurate analogy would be calling a class a Kay template or calling a for loop a Lovelace construct. And it's great that we don't do that.

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Re: Mathematicians should stop naming things after each other

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Hard disagree. Once you get to the advanced levels of any field, terminology being "accessible" doesn't really matter, but being precise does . Areas like philosophy and law actually suffer in my opinion when they overload common words with uncommon meanings, or descend into weird disambiguations that depend on suffixes. For example, in philosophy there's "contractarianism" and "contractualism", and trying to remembe…

You can have only so many Riemann theorems before it becomes confusing, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Leon...

> Many of these entities have been given simple and ambiguous names such as Euler's function, Euler's equation, and Euler's formula.

> In an effort to avoid naming everything after Euler, some discoveries and theorems are attributed to the first person to have proved them after Euler.

Re: Mathematicians should stop naming things after each other

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Meh, that's like saying it's so hard to remember San Francisco from San Jose from Mountain View from Palo Alto, why can't we just name them as Big Sea City, Big South City, Middle Town, and Expensive Town. I.e., it's a fake problem that only sounds plausible to outsiders - if you live in the Bay Area, then Mountain View being called Mountain View is the least of your problems in driving to Mountain View.

Agree, although as a Mountain View resident I'm pretty disgruntled that there is neither mountain nor view here. A town like Mammoth Lakes, CA would be a better candidate to deserve the name "Mountain View". Jokes aside there are places in the world that name themselves much more intuitively like you described. Beijing = northern capital Nanjing = southern capital Shanghai = on the sea Hong Kong = fragrant harbor Xi'…

Mountain View was named that way because if you look West you will see the Black Mountain, part of the Santa Cruz Mountains.

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Agree, although as a Mountain View resident I'm pretty disgruntled that there is neither mountain nor view here. A town like Mammoth Lakes, CA would be a better candidate to deserve the name "Mountain View". Jokes aside there are places in the world that name themselves much more intuitively like you described. Beijing = northern capital Nanjing = southern capital Shanghai = on the sea Hong Kong = fragrant harbor Xi'…

Many places, even in the West, were named after unique characteristics. Language changed though. I studied in a German town called Paderborn (we lovingly called it "Paderboring" though). A river called Pader originates there and the word "born" is old German for source or spring. Many other German towns have similar names that make sense in old German or are derived from Latin names that were more descriptive but nob…

Don't forget Lone Pine Mall!

https://backtothefuture.fandom.com/wiki/Twin_Pines_Mall

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