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Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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post #4

This is absurd. I'm a US citizen, so I'll contact my Congressman to have his staff look into it. I don't have any special power, any US citizen can contact their congressman, but maybe that will kick-start something.

Why would a Congressman go to bat for a foreigner who can't get entry into the US?

I mean, I guess their office could push the gov't for an actual decision, but I can't see them fighting for approval.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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post #97

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49 months for Canada? Oh no, I guess I'll never be able to settle down, marry, and have kids. Canada was my backup option if NZ doesn't work out.

This is not true, do not believe OP, Express Entry review is eight months.

Not everyone is eligible for Express Entry.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

#113
post #49

Canada is benefiting substantially from the recent US immigration policies. My Ai team at Microsoft Canada was stacked with talent, all immigrants, and most expressed to me that they would have “normally gone to the US.” I don’t have to remind this community of the laundry list of tech giants started by immigrants. However, if anyone outside the US is reading this we’d love to have you in Canada. Come here, please.

The current approval time for residency applications is 49 months. I'm sure it's less for straight-up worker visas, though. EDIT: I was not sufficiently precise. I'm not speaking of Express Entry / skills-based applications here. If you have a high score in the CRS system, you are eligible for other programs which may be much faster.

According to IRCC, 80% of Express Entry applications for permanent residency are approved on less than 6 months [1].

There are many different residency programs, some of which take longer than others, but the Express Entry program is probably the default option for most HN readers.

[1] https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/se... economic immigration > skilled worker (federal) > I haven't applied yet

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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spoiler: it won't.

I had a friend who worked in constituent services for a US Senator, and...yeah, if you can get someone's attention in that setting, they can make stuff happen that otherwise would have fallen through the cracks. Been awhile since I heard stories, but one came to mind was someone getting the right visa for his bride in time for the wedding. Another one had to do with getting some kind of medal for a soldier. Not sure…

Oh when it comes to immigration issues for the family of US citizens, yes, calling your Congressman can definitely move things along.

But a foreigner whose visa is denied? Not sure why the Congressman would bother unless it somehow impacted the US.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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post #63
post #14

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I remember at some point a few years ago realizing that “hey, I’m more nervous, hassled, scrutinized and having my privacy compromised entering the USA than mainland China”. That change happened in not that many years. And it is not to say that China improved in any significant manner. It’s been a couple of years pre-COVID that I now avoid (and haven’t been) traveling to or through the USA, a country Ive always other…

I am also significantly more hassled entering the US than any other country. And I'm actually a US citizen. The worst part about going to Canada is coming home. Typically a 40 minute affair where 5 different officers pull all the luggage out of my car, dump the contents on the ground, pull out the seats, inspect the engine and all other major cavities, and leave me with a mess that has ruffled and scratched my vehicl…

I went to Canada once to pay the import duties on a gift and mail it to my friend on the other coast. When I told the Canadian border guards that that is why I was visiting Canada, they told me to pull over and go inside. I went in, they took my iphone, asked for the pass code, charged me the duty on the item I was importing, and then had me sit there for two hours while they went over my car. After letting me go on my way, I drove to Surry, taped the box closed and dropped it at the UPS Store there. Then returned to the US. When the US guards saw my entry time they asked why I visited Canada for only 30 minutes. I told them the exact same thing I told the Canadian guards, they laughed and waved me through.

BTW, Canada won't let you in if you have a criminal record or even a DUI citation.

When I flew to Rome a couple years ago there are two lines for immigration. One is for Europeans and the other is for everyone else. A guard saw me standing in the everyone else line while holding a blue American RFID enabled passport and pulled me from the line and sent me through the Europeans line. It took me two minutes to get through immigration. My friend arriving from SEA spent an hour and a half and was interrogated about where we were staying, what we were doing, verified a return ticket, and so on.

The moral of the story is that every country weighs risks, costs, and benefits every time they let someone in.

Borders are a thing and controlling who crosses borders is one of the fundamental and defining characteristics of a country.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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post #30

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The network effects of intelligent people in your country are positive. On average, you want their voting behavior, their parenting skills, their risk assessments, their economic and tax contributions, and their cultural contributions.

It's the 'than anywhere else' part that I have an issue with. If that's the way you see it, you're doing this at the explicit detriment of everyone outside your country. There's ways to grow that 'intelligence pool' locally, without having to see the rest of the world as just a pool of immigration candidates. Not to mention, just because someone travels to the US doesn't mean they want to actually immigrate there...

Maybe you are learning that being actually "nationalistic" (ie maximizing the prosperity of the nation) implies supporting strong high skilled immigration pipelines because of the incredible benefits these immigrants have for the nation and it's native inhabitants.

It's a great irony that those who reject taking the best and brightest are the "nationalists" and those who want to take the best and brightest are the "globalists".

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

#117
post #49

Canada is benefiting substantially from the recent US immigration policies. My Ai team at Microsoft Canada was stacked with talent, all immigrants, and most expressed to me that they would have “normally gone to the US.” I don’t have to remind this community of the laundry list of tech giants started by immigrants. However, if anyone outside the US is reading this we’d love to have you in Canada. Come here, please.

Montreal in particular is blowing up as a tech hub

I run a startup in Montreal

can attest to that

level of talent is insane

Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal are all blowing up

thank you US for sending all the best techies to Canada

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Again, if you apply for a work visa, it's probably faster. If, instead, you go directly for a permanent residency application, it's slower and more difficult. There are accelerated programs (like the Québec Investor program) that can get you through certain hurdles much faster, but they're not cheap. And even then, that preliminary process can take a couple of years, after which you get thrown into the 49-month Feder…

It's nowhere near that. It was like that back in 2008-ish when there was a backlog hundreds of thousands of people long. It has not been like that since Express Entry was fully implemented. Check the processing times here for yourself: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/se... https://moving2canada.com/express-entry-report-2019-processi...

It is for non-Express Entry applications. Those of us too old for CRS-score based applications, or who are not looking for jobs evidently get put into a different queue.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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post #63
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember at some point a few years ago realizing that “hey, I’m more nervous, hassled, scrutinized and having my privacy compromised entering the USA than mainland China”. That change happened in not that many years. And it is not to say that China improved in any significant manner. It’s been a couple of years pre-COVID that I now avoid (and haven’t been) traveling to or through the USA, a country Ive always other…

I am also significantly more hassled entering the US than any other country. And I'm actually a US citizen. The worst part about going to Canada is coming home. Typically a 40 minute affair where 5 different officers pull all the luggage out of my car, dump the contents on the ground, pull out the seats, inspect the engine and all other major cavities, and leave me with a mess that has ruffled and scratched my vehicl…

I had the opposite experience as a Canadian. I got shit on nearly every time I went back to Canada (e.g. accused of smuggling, lying about what I was going to do in Canada). Entering the US? I usually got a "welcome back".

I think it has more to do with crapping on your own citizens because "I don't need to roll out the welcome carpet and there isn't anything you can do about it".

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not true, do not believe OP, Express Entry review is eight months.

Not everyone is eligible for Express Entry.

That's true, but thankfully I planned my life around the Express Entry pre-requisites.

Right after graduating in 2011 (BEng->MEng accelerated Electronic Systems Engineering), I went to Canada on Working Holiday, decided it was nice, and after visiting NZ and a few other places until 2014, went to Taiwan to get the years of continuous relevant work experience. I'm turning 31 next week; my girlfriend is 3 years older. A 6-8 month process is fine, a 49 month process is not.

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