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Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

q3k wrote: post #30
kortilla wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The network effects of intelligent people in your country are positive. On average, you want their voting behavior, their parenting skills, their risk assessments, their economic and tax contributions, and their cultural contributions.

It's the 'than anywhere else' part that I have an issue with. If that's the way you see it, you're doing this at the explicit detriment of everyone outside your country. There's ways to grow that 'intelligence pool' locally, without having to see the rest of the world as just a pool of immigration candidates. Not to mention, just because someone travels to the US doesn't mean they want to actually immigrate there...

I guess that's true in some sense, but I wouldn't frame it that way. When I say I'd like my company to hire some great engineer, that doesn't mean I see other companies as just a pool of job candidates or that I'm trying to stick them with bad employees.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by angst_ridden »

MattyMc wrote: post #49

Canada is benefiting substantially from the recent US immigration policies. My Ai team at Microsoft Canada was stacked with talent, all immigrants, and most expressed to me that they would have “normally gone to the US.” I don’t have to remind this community of the laundry list of tech giants started by immigrants. However, if anyone outside the US is reading this we’d love to have you in Canada. Come here, please.

The current approval time for residency applications is 49 months.

I'm sure it's less for straight-up worker visas, though.

EDIT: I was not sufficiently precise. I'm not speaking of Express Entry / skills-based applications here. If you have a high score in the CRS system, you are eligible for other programs which may be much faster.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by Taek »

3np wrote: post #14
setpatchaddress wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's getting to the point where one must ask why someone wealthy enough to fly internationally would want the hassle of entering the US. It's been bad since 9/11, but it's insane now. I can't imagine the TSA is treating people better than they did pre-Trump. Maybe things will be better next year.

I remember at some point a few years ago realizing that “hey, I’m more nervous, hassled, scrutinized and having my privacy compromised entering the USA than mainland China”. That change happened in not that many years. And it is not to say that China improved in any significant manner. It’s been a couple of years pre-COVID that I now avoid (and haven’t been) traveling to or through the USA, a country Ive always other…

I am also significantly more hassled entering the US than any other country. And I'm actually a US citizen.

The worst part about going to Canada is coming home. Typically a 40 minute affair where 5 different officers pull all the luggage out of my car, dump the contents on the ground, pull out the seats, inspect the engine and all other major cavities, and leave me with a mess that has ruffled and scratched my vehicle.

4 times in a row now.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by ralph84 »

nathansoz wrote: post #31
konbaji wrote: post #19

I am a strong supporter of the current administration's restrictions on immigration. The resources in the US are simply too scarce to support unfettered immigration. Moreover, we need less "white immigrants" to come here in order to maintain diversity.

This is just... wrong? We want smart people here in the US. We should poach them and entice them to come here by all reasonable measures. Plus, people aren't having kids like they used to. So you need to replace population somehow. See also: Japan.

Why do you need to replace population? Is Japan really that bad of a place? And Japan's population has been in the 120-130 million range for the last 35 years, so it's not like there's been a huge swing either way.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by celim307 »

MattyMc wrote: post #49

Canada is benefiting substantially from the recent US immigration policies. My Ai team at Microsoft Canada was stacked with talent, all immigrants, and most expressed to me that they would have “normally gone to the US.” I don’t have to remind this community of the laundry list of tech giants started by immigrants. However, if anyone outside the US is reading this we’d love to have you in Canada. Come here, please.

Montreal in particular is blowing up as a tech hub

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by richm31415 »

konbaji wrote: post #58
MattyMc wrote: post #49

Canada is benefiting substantially from the recent US immigration policies. My Ai team at Microsoft Canada was stacked with talent, all immigrants, and most expressed to me that they would have “normally gone to the US.” I don’t have to remind this community of the laundry list of tech giants started by immigrants. However, if anyone outside the US is reading this we’d love to have you in Canada. Come here, please.

If this trend continues US will likely see this as an act of aggression by Canada. They can't just "take all the talent". Canada should be careful or US will push for annexation.

Don't worry - the Canadians will apologize profusely

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by nathansoz »

ralph84 wrote: post #64
nathansoz wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just... wrong? We want smart people here in the US. We should poach them and entice them to come here by all reasonable measures. Plus, people aren't having kids like they used to. So you need to replace population somehow. See also: Japan.

Why do you need to replace population? Is Japan really that bad of a place? And Japan's population has been in the 120-130 million range for the last 35 years, so it's not like there's been a huge swing either way.

Japan has had issues with finding workers to support their elderly population. No, it isn't a bad place. But yes, there are issues to solve that come with an aging population and a shrinking population.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by throw_m239339 »

svnpenn wrote: post #39

If you know Daniel, you know that this is one of the stupidest things the US government could possibly do regarding immigration. Daniel is literally one of the most brilliant computer programmers alive today. He created cURL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CURL A program so ubiquitous that it comes preinstalled on every mainstream OS, even Windows. It has bindings for Rust, D, PHP and God knows how many other language…

The irony is that whoever designed the US immigration information system are probably using CURL somewhere in their stack, thus Daniel's code.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by stonogo »

Why are all the comments here about immigration? Daniel Stenberg is trying to visit, not move to the United States.

Having said that, I'm not sure why this is being posted here today, since there haven't been any updates since his two-years-in blog post some months back.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by jrochkind1 »

MattyMc wrote: post #49

Canada is benefiting substantially from the recent US immigration policies. My Ai team at Microsoft Canada was stacked with talent, all immigrants, and most expressed to me that they would have “normally gone to the US.” I don’t have to remind this community of the laundry list of tech giants started by immigrants. However, if anyone outside the US is reading this we’d love to have you in Canada. Come here, please.

I am inside the US, and would love to be in Canada instead. How is it getting work visas for USA-ians?
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