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Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by xuki »

jdright wrote: post #42
dwheeler wrote: post #4

This is absurd. I'm a US citizen, so I'll contact my Congressman to have his staff look into it. I don't have any special power, any US citizen can contact their congressman, but maybe that will kick-start something.

The funny thing is that if he had gone work as a temporary worker in Canada, two years would have given him permanent resident status. Then two more years he can become a citizen, then he would be free to enter USA. This would be faster and better solution overall. But anyways, I don't think it is ever worth the trouble going there.

That’s not how it works. Only U.S. citizens have the right to enter the country. Canadians can be denied at port of entry.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by D2187645 »

joshjhargreaves wrote: post #26
dwheeler wrote: post #4

This is absurd. I'm a US citizen, so I'll contact my Congressman to have his staff look into it. I don't have any special power, any US citizen can contact their congressman, but maybe that will kick-start something.

spoiler: it won't.

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Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by jacobwilliamroy »

The U.S. has a brain drain problem. This is what I was trying to explain to all my friends who jumped ship after the 2016 presidential election. The only way to save the U.S. is for all the good people to stay but "noooooooooooooooo", all the smart people wanted to run off to canada or germany or whatever.

Please come back. It's getting really bad.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by sushid »

ashtonkem wrote: post #48
vageli wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > The resources in the US are simply too scarce to support unfettered immigration. > I fundamentally disagree with you, but I’m interested in hearing your viewpoint. Is there any country with unfettered immigration?

Depends on your timespan. In the modern era only failed states that can’t actually secure their own borders have unfettered immigration; but it’s pretty rare for people to want to go into such countries. Scroll back a few centuries, and what we’d consider to be “open borders” was much more the norm. Then again, a few centuries before that and the vast majority of residents in Europe couldn’t legally leave the land th…

That's still true in some places today.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by codetrotter »

MattyMc wrote: post #49

Canada is benefiting substantially from the recent US immigration policies. My Ai team at Microsoft Canada was stacked with talent, all immigrants, and most expressed to me that they would have “normally gone to the US.” I don’t have to remind this community of the laundry list of tech giants started by immigrants. However, if anyone outside the US is reading this we’d love to have you in Canada. Come here, please.

I’ve been thinking about going to Canada for a long while, and this might sound silly but I was wondering, do people on HN who have immigrated to Canada arrange a lot ahead of time like doing interviews with companies via teleconferencing? Or do you go there to meet people in person first and to investigate opportunities? Or something else?

And when you did go, did you get a job at the company you thought you were going to work for, or did you have to interview with other companies instead?

Furthermore, has anyone here had the misfortune of trying to immigrate but ending up not finding work and having to cancel their immigration plans? If so, what were your experiences like and what would you do different this time?

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by foolfoolz »

jacobwilliamroy wrote: post #53

The U.S. has a brain drain problem. This is what I was trying to explain to all my friends who jumped ship after the 2016 presidential election. The only way to save the U.S. is for all the good people to stay but "noooooooooooooooo", all the smart people wanted to run off to canada or germany or whatever. Please come back. It's getting really bad.

your bubble does not represent reality. the u. s. is and has been the destination for brain drain for decades. and our decades long green card application list shows it’s not going anywhere

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by runbyfruity »

konbaji wrote: post #46
snazz wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The resources in the US are simply too scarce to support unfettered immigration. I fundamentally disagree with you, but I’m interested in hearing your viewpoint. Would you be willing to expand on what you mean by this statement? Are you referring primarily to jobs and government assistance?

> but I’m interested in hearing your viewpoint. Given my downvotes it seems others here are not so interested. Nevertheless, I will give you an example. Housing. I am a bay area native and through my lifetime I have seen certain immigrants from Europe and South Asia, push up the cost of housing. Those tech H1B workers only serve to exacerbate this issue. I can no longer afford to buy a property unless I work in tech…

So what makes you think that immigrants are the tipping point? If there were no immigrants, who's to say white people (who are themselves... descended from immigrants) wouldn't fill those housing units?

Edit: housing prices are somewhat a function of demand, and I don't think you've adequately shown that any excess demand is driven by (recent) immigrants. You're being downvoted because this rhetoric is blatantly jingoistic. There ARE nuanced conversations to have about immigration policy; "immigrants make Bay Area housing expensive" is not one of them.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by konbaji »

MattyMc wrote: post #49

Canada is benefiting substantially from the recent US immigration policies. My Ai team at Microsoft Canada was stacked with talent, all immigrants, and most expressed to me that they would have “normally gone to the US.” I don’t have to remind this community of the laundry list of tech giants started by immigrants. However, if anyone outside the US is reading this we’d love to have you in Canada. Come here, please.

If this trend continues US will likely see this as an act of aggression by Canada. They can't just "take all the talent". Canada should be careful or US will push for annexation.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by tmn007 »

Havoc wrote: post #28
bigtones wrote: post #17

One of the most common reason to be denied an ESTA of a Visa to the United States is because of a criminal conviction or a criminal charge in your home country. I'm not saying this is the case here, but that is one of the most common reasons. Then again, it might be just because he's a "hacker".

Given that his ESTA application previously succeeded a criminal charge seems unlikely here.

Most countries don't give the USA carte blanche access to their citizens criminal history unless it is in their interests to declare (I base this on observations of people who have past criminal convictions yet still get ESTA approvals and travel to the USA). However, the USA may have become aware of something that they previously were not aware of.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by jacobwilliamroy »

foolfoolz wrote: post #56
jacobwilliamroy wrote: post #53

The U.S. has a brain drain problem. This is what I was trying to explain to all my friends who jumped ship after the 2016 presidential election. The only way to save the U.S. is for all the good people to stay but "noooooooooooooooo", all the smart people wanted to run off to canada or germany or whatever. Please come back. It's getting really bad.

your bubble does not represent reality. the u. s. is and has been the destination for brain drain for decades. and our decades long green card application list shows it’s not going anywhere

Maybe your bubble doesn't represent reality.
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