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Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by kortilla »

gpm wrote: post #13
sokoloff wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TSA has nothing to do with people entering the US.[0] CBP is the border police. [0] - except for perhaps a few airports where you pre-clear and are treated as a domestic flight (Dublin, Toronto, maybe others)

On a flight from Toronto to the US... I don't think I interact with the TSA at all? I interact with Canadian security in Canada. I interact with US border control in Canada. I walk out the front door in the states without interacting with security at all. I could be wrong about the agencies that some of the people I interact with work for though.

Correct. The most interaction you would have with TSA would be waving at the guard at the egress gate of the secure side.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by Havoc »

konbaji wrote: post #19

I am a strong supporter of the current administration's restrictions on immigration. The resources in the US are simply too scarce to support unfettered immigration. Moreover, we need less "white immigrants" to come here in order to maintain diversity.

>I am a strong supporter of the current administration's restrictions on immigration.

He's visiting a conference not immigrating.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by kortilla »

q3k wrote: post #20
bfuclusion wrote: post #8

$5 says this is stuck in some bureaucratic sinkhole somewhere. Barring a _good_ reason, I'd much rather have Daniel's brain here in the US than anywhere else.

> I'd much rather have Daniel's brain here in the US than anywhere else. This sentence strikes me as very odd, and I can't quite put my finger on as to why. Like - why? Why does it matter? Is this some sort of competition? Is this like poaching talent into your company? Do you feel pride from sharing a territory with someone important?

The network effects of intelligent people in your country are positive. On average, you want their voting behavior, their parenting skills, their risk assessments, their economic and tax contributions, and their cultural contributions.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by snazz »

konbaji wrote: post #19

I am a strong supporter of the current administration's restrictions on immigration. The resources in the US are simply too scarce to support unfettered immigration. Moreover, we need less "white immigrants" to come here in order to maintain diversity.

> The resources in the US are simply too scarce to support unfettered immigration.

I fundamentally disagree with you, but I’m interested in hearing your viewpoint. Would you be willing to expand on what you mean by this statement? Are you referring primarily to jobs and government assistance?

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by dylan604 »

gpm wrote: post #13
sokoloff wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TSA has nothing to do with people entering the US.[0] CBP is the border police. [0] - except for perhaps a few airports where you pre-clear and are treated as a domestic flight (Dublin, Toronto, maybe others)

On a flight from Toronto to the US... I don't think I interact with the TSA at all? I interact with Canadian security in Canada. I interact with US border control in Canada. I walk out the front door in the states without interacting with security at all. I could be wrong about the agencies that some of the people I interact with work for though.

You interact with TSA on your flight from US back to Toronto though

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by joshjhargreaves »

dwheeler wrote: post #4

This is absurd. I'm a US citizen, so I'll contact my Congressman to have his staff look into it. I don't have any special power, any US citizen can contact their congressman, but maybe that will kick-start something.

spoiler: it won't.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by Havoc »

bigtones wrote: post #17

One of the most common reason to be denied an ESTA of a Visa to the United States is because of a criminal conviction or a criminal charge in your home country. I'm not saying this is the case here, but that is one of the most common reasons. Then again, it might be just because he's a "hacker".

Given that his ESTA application previously succeeded a criminal charge seems unlikely here.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by q3k »

kortilla wrote: post #23
q3k wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd much rather have Daniel's brain here in the US than anywhere else. This sentence strikes me as very odd, and I can't quite put my finger on as to why. Like - why? Why does it matter? Is this some sort of competition? Is this like poaching talent into your company? Do you feel pride from sharing a territory with someone important?

The network effects of intelligent people in your country are positive. On average, you want their voting behavior, their parenting skills, their risk assessments, their economic and tax contributions, and their cultural contributions.

It's the 'than anywhere else' part that I have an issue with. If that's the way you see it, you're doing this at the explicit detriment of everyone outside your country.

There's ways to grow that 'intelligence pool' locally, without having to see the rest of the world as just a pool of immigration candidates. Not to mention, just because someone travels to the US doesn't mean they want to actually immigrate there...

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