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iPhone unit sales have been declining steadily for 5 years

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Re: iPhone unit sales have been declining steadily for 5 years

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Off topic: Do you consider $99 $499 $1999 $99.99 etc. pricing to be unethical?

No, because you are still making the same financial commitment in the end, and the buyer will be aware of that decision.

This pricing technique is just to make someone look.

So, if this is unethical, so is a brightly lit sign, or a couple well-placed adjectives in a sales pitch.

Re: iPhone unit sales have been declining steadily for 5 years

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That is to be expected, most of the world doesn't do contracts, the phones already do what 99% want from such a device, and most new features look like pointless gimmicks without much relevance for most public. This applies to Android as well.

> the phones already do what 99% want from such a device Until a technological limit is broken through that opens up new possibilities. If I imagine the perfect device, it wouldn't even be a physical tablet shaped device I need to hold in my hand. Better voice recognition and understanding of natural language commands and some breakthrough in display tech that doesn't require a glass screen could change the game. Yes…

I'm quite fond of the telepathic mode of communication shown in Ghost in the Shell. Between now and mass adoption of Neuralink (if it happens...), I imagine there'd be a neck-worn device that can read off the neural signals going to our throat and allows us to operate devices/communicate through subvocalization [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subvocal_recognition

Re: iPhone unit sales have been declining steadily for 5 years

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Interesting, probably at least partially explains the gobs of money they are throwing at content production.

And also the opting for the nuclear option when faced with defending their 30% app store commissions. I love Apple devices, but at some point no one can afford them anymore. Strangely, I noticed that this has happened before when Steve Jobs left Apple for the first time. At that point, Apple's product lineup keep getting more complex and more expensive, until Jobs came back and cut both the product count and pricing…

Yes, it used to be a single phone a year, pricier options were just for storage. Maybe that was too far in one direction, I don't know. But now it seems like too many, and I couldn't even tell you the real difference between the options, much less why I should spend $1500 on one of them when I can a 1.5 year old android flagship for $400 with CPU & GPU benchmarks only a little less that theirs, which is all I really care about: snappy response for page loads, video streaming, gaming, reasonably good camera & video quality.

Re: iPhone unit sales have been declining steadily for 5 years

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The numbers on chart 1 and chart 2 do not match at all, even though they are supposed to be the same, just with different scalings.

One has 2015 unit sales below 200 million, the other has it above 220 million.

one has the trend line drawn from 2016 and the other starting in 2015.

I think a good rule of thumb is to say, if the writer can't see that they made two completely different trend lines for the same thing, right next to each-other, there is probably a lot of things the writer did not notice in the numbers. Best not to spend time on their conclusions.

Re: iPhone unit sales have been declining steadily for 5 years

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Interesting, probably at least partially explains the gobs of money they are throwing at content production.

And also the opting for the nuclear option when faced with defending their 30% app store commissions. I love Apple devices, but at some point no one can afford them anymore. Strangely, I noticed that this has happened before when Steve Jobs left Apple for the first time. At that point, Apple's product lineup keep getting more complex and more expensive, until Jobs came back and cut both the product count and pricing…

The SE and even the 11 seem fairly affordable. The pro versions seem fairly pointless imo. You also have the option of buying a second a second hand older model. Even the iphone X is faster than current year androids.

Re: iPhone unit sales have been declining steadily for 5 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? I think 4G LTE is more than fast enough, if available.

Because people will eventually build for 5G. And then your 4G LTE won't be fast enough.

4G in my area is currently faster than my home internet on the Australian NBN. The killer feature seems to be not the fact that its faster but that it is shorter range so there is less congestion. If you live in a big city, 5g will bring 4g speeds that the suburbs experience.

And speed doesn't seem to be the limiting factor of mobile internet. Data caps are by far more restricting.

Re: iPhone unit sales have been declining steadily for 5 years

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Interesting, probably at least partially explains the gobs of money they are throwing at content production.

That's one theory that has been thrown. It's pretty sensible. The hardware and software does a ton already .. every year seems like tweaking absurd performance counters already.
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