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Is macOS Becoming Unmaintainable?

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Re: Is macOS Becoming Unmaintainable?

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It's the bloat that is terrible. Chrome pages are 5x the size of the same page on Linux or Windows. You need 8GB minimum nowadays to run Catalina where Tiger it was 256MB.

> Chrome pages are 5x the size of the same page on Linux or Windows. Source?

Did ya try it yourself? I did.

Re: Is macOS Becoming Unmaintainable?

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>Apple claim it is not accessible. It doesn't matter what Apple claim. All their software and hardware is proprietary, including of course their "cloud" computers. You have no way of verifying anything they say.

We can take them at their word: they tell us what is end-to-end encrypted, plainly. Everything not on that list is not, and thus readable by Apple. The critical items not end-to-end encrypted being device backups, photos, notes, email. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303

In practice the end-to-end encryption of Apple products isn't better than regular encryption (in transit and at rest) with Apple holding the key. In what I assume is an effort to make the services more user friendly they have done away with key verification (something you see in Signal and Matrix-based chat services) that means the user has no way of verifying the parties of the chat and users have no say in how session keys are shared to parties. This makes it trivial for Apple to participate in all E2E sessions. It's no more work that just decrypting your non-E2E data.

Re: Is macOS Becoming Unmaintainable?

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Yes, QC of macOS releases is inadequate. I can’t say it’s really new though, even Tiger and Leopard had their issues on day 0 (it was also way worse in the 7.5.x era). On the other hand, it is entirely possible to stay on a given version for the entire life of its successor. It is also possible to wait for the next x.5 version to upgrade, notwithstanding the incredibly annoying notification about a new major version…

> On the other hand, it is entirely possible to stay on a given version for the entire life of its successor. Or the successor of its successor: Apple doesn't make any guarantees about it, but typically the _three_ most recent macOS versions receive security updates. Right now: 10.13, 10.14, and 10.15 (plus of course the 10.16 betas). The real problem for many developers is that Xcode typically requires a fairly rece…

OSes (MacOS, iOS, watchOS, tvOS) and Xcode get released in lockstep. The SDKs for each year’s OS releases will work only on that year’s Xcode, which runs on no earlier than the previous year’s MacOS. I’ve been able to transplant the SDK for iOS 13 (which requires MacOS 10.14) so that I can develop on MacOS 10.13 (the latest my MacBook Pro will run), but that’s about to run out. I may end up with a cheap dev-only Mac Mini.

Re: Is macOS Becoming Unmaintainable?

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>> We are heading rapidly towards the corollary to “it just works” being “and if it doesn’t, just wipe everything and re-install”. >Is this really all that bad? I had to reinstall Catalina a few times in the past month. I usually lose half a day waiting for the restore to complete.

A few times in a month seems a tad excessive. What's causing your installs to become corrupted?

My 16" Macbook Pro was "repaired" three times before they exchanged it for a new one ...

Re: Is macOS Becoming Unmaintainable?

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I'm not sure software stability is decreasing, these sort of problems have existed for as long as I can remember.

Yeah, people forget how buggy macOS has been. Both Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion were public admissions that they needed to focus on quality. They haven’t had a proper one of those in a while. That said, I can’t remember a time when bugs have been as long-standing as they are now. SMB file shares have been completely broken for nearly 3 years now (the solution is to buy the program AutoMounter), and USB-C docks have…

Personally I think that the quality started increasing between the first few releases (i.e. tiger better than panther, or at least definitely better than jaguar), but it then started decreasing at some point. I would not be able to say which release was at the "peak".

Re: Is macOS Becoming Unmaintainable?

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Could you elaborate on the issues you’ve been having? Been using Catalina since the beta and haven’t really had any major problems..

I'm not the original commenter but I've had this issue where the laptop reboots instead of sleeping properly. Keeps happening, not sure why, and many others have had it too on forums.

Had the same issue. Fixed once I uninstalled VirtualBox and the KEXT extention. Vbox was no longer needed because I switched to Docker.

Re: Is macOS Becoming Unmaintainable?

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It used to be a long running joke as well as practical wisdom on the Windows side to always wait for SP1 (Service Pack 1) for better stability and never to install the X.0 version. For all the “doubling down on Mac” that Apple’s senior employees harp about in interviews, macOS itself has been focusing more on eye candy and iOS parity than on stability. For my machines, I switch to Linux once macOS updates are no long…

Just in case you ever consider it for some reason, under no circumstances should you upgrade to Catalina. Worst OS I’ve used since I left windows nearly 20 years ago.

Reasons being? Because I didn't have a single issue with Catalina.

People consider their anecdotal experiences as universal (I offer mine as a single counter example to the parent's experience), when it could be all kinds of weird factors in their case (a faulty hardware run, some incompatible peripherals, user errors attributed to the OS, application errors attributed to the OS and so on).

Re: Is macOS Becoming Unmaintainable?

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> Apple has long taken pride that “it just works”, but seems to have convinced itself that is inviolate fact This. Apple's inability to admit fault coupled with decreasing software stability makes life difficult in many ways. For instance, aside from the obvious detrimental effects of OS bugs, it's often quite difficult to find specific solutions without a specific error message. "$APP silently fails" or "Why is my f…

>Apple's inability to admit fault

Like? Because Apple admits fault all the time.

E.g.:

1) with the updated Mac Pro design and extended apologies for the old Pro format.

2) with the revised keyboard in the new Macbook Pros.

3) Changing from "skeuomorphic" (bad term, but I'll use it) UI to a flater look

and tons of other instances...

Re: Is macOS Becoming Unmaintainable?

#150

WSL2 on windows is really nice. I do all my dev on a surface book laptop running windows. WSL2 has me covered for anything that needs posix, but that's increasingly rare. Edit: my deploy target is Ubuntu.

Is systemd/systemctl still broken on WSL2? How do you deploy on Ubuntu, when the service control layer is incompatible between Ubuntu and WSL2?

WSL2 is just a Hyper-V VM with some UI integrations. It uses an actual Linux kernel rather than a NT kernel personality, so systemd should work like in any other VM.
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