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Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by teddyh »

lsh123 wrote: post #163

My house rules (I have 3 kids): - do whatever you want on your devices, but you break it - you fix it (your brothers might help you but it’s up to them); - on school days, all internet ends at 10pm, but you are welcome to hack into my firewall; - everything you post online is public and saved forever; - use generated passwords and 1password for all passwords and all password recovery questions.

> - everything you post online is public and saved forever;

That’s a useful thing to know, but may be a bad thing to truly internalize:

“You had to live – did live, from habit that became instinct – in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized.”

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by aaomidi »

ponker wrote: post #222
aaomidi wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you thought that maybe if those people were given the tools to distinguish right from wrong they wouldn't have ended up believing that crap? You have really no proof about the relationship of parenting style to conspiracy theory believers.

I mean it's obvious that I can't convince you that a generic 10 year old shouldn't be left to roam the Internet freely, so I'll refrain from trying further.

This is a thing you need to be doing since the start.

You can't just pick any 10 year old and give them this level of freedom..

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by klyrs »

googlryas wrote: post #159
klyrs wrote: post #17

In the late 90s, my dad was really mad about me experimenting with Linux on my personal computer which I built from parts bought with money earned at a summer job. It was kinda hilarious. He has zero involvement with microsoft, very little knowledge of computers, and tended to be mildly anti-establishment... and since it was 100% my computer, it had zero impact on his life. It really felt like a "my role is to crack…

He might have just been sad that you weren't living your life how he would have - ie you spent a lot of time in front of the computer instead of out socializing, chasing girls, playing sports, etc?

He was pretty supportive of my computer hobby... him and my mom both were. But like he was also super big on ford trucks, fuck Chevy, I think there was some brand loyalty tribalism in play around microsoft? There was a ton of FUD about oss back then, so maybe he probably absorbed that? Shame he's dead, these "wtf were you thinking" conversations were always fun.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by ivan1783 »

lsh123 wrote: post #163

My house rules (I have 3 kids): - do whatever you want on your devices, but you break it - you fix it (your brothers might help you but it’s up to them); - on school days, all internet ends at 10pm, but you are welcome to hack into my firewall; - everything you post online is public and saved forever; - use generated passwords and 1password for all passwords and all password recovery questions.

How do you deal with phone data connections?

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by seventhtiger »

nitrogen wrote: post #225
seventhtiger wrote: post #217

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Nintendo games with 4+ player multiplayer is actually a great time with family and friends. In general I think Nintendo makes social games that are intended for the living room, which is harder to find on the other consoles, and almost impossible on PC. I say this as someone who mainly plays on PC and has LAN parties at home. Consoles can be social devices. PCs can be isolating devices.

There are social games on PCs, meant to be played by a bunch of people with controllers, available on e.g. Steam. The ones I know of tend to be more teen-and-older oriented in their themes and levels of violence though.

They do exist but are they the best single screen multiplayer experiences? Even indie developers of the genre target Nintendo platforms because they know Nintendo draws that audience. They are the only local-multiplayer-first AAA developer.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by atoav »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #82
atoav wrote: post #32

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I don't really care what OS people use, they might have reasons I don't see after all. On the other hand I did work in an IT department and saw people getting 3k€ devices where I know there is no way on earth they are going to need that horsepower, and I knew because I helped them using it daily. And guess what: it is usually Apple. The shiniest new thing just for the good of their own souls. 3k+ devices for sending…

There’s people paying upwards of a thousand dollars on Intel i9s or Threadrippers when all they do is game. What I’m saying is that there’s fanatics on everything, not just Apple. You were just exposed to Apple fanatics. There’s also Windows fanatics (not as common, but they exist). And, of course, there’s Linux fanatics. There’s also fanatics in regards to hate. A big one we see here is Microsoft. Some here seem to…

Yeah but when you game you are at least using the hardware, which means there is a real benefit for you to have that expensive hardware.

What I mean is a bit more like buying a toddler a Ferrari. Of course they like it — it is red (so it must be fast) — but they can't drive well enough to even leave the driveway.

I start to sound more bothered about this than I actually am, in fact it doesn't really bother me that much at all. It is just sad to observe how money is misused to stroke (most often male) egos and hurting the whole organisation through it.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by rrreese »

Tcepsa wrote: post #221
nicklaf wrote: post #181

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As an enlightened, modern parent, I try to be as involved as possible in the lives of my six children. I encourage them to join team sports. I attend their teen parties with them to ensure no drinking or alcohol is on the premises. I keep a fatherly eye on the CDs they listen to and the shows they watch, the company they keep and the books they read. You could say I'm a model parent. My children have never failed to…

This is a shitpost and/or copypasta, right? Maybe it's intended as a "Ha, look at the ridiculous sorts of FUD that folks posted about this stuff back in the day" but its tone is earnest enough--even with tons of obvious flags like the ones I mention below--that I'd encourage you to seriously consider adding a disclaimer of some kind. Some of the "tells": The whole thing has a "Chick Tract" vibe to it (personal, relat…

It appears to be this article "Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?": https://web.archive.org/web/20031114161830/http://www.adequa...

No idea of the origin.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by fsckboy »

3131s wrote: post #191
fsckboy wrote: post #172

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Children at any age, from baby through adolescence, have developing brains, and obeying rules, testing rules, struggling against rules, and accomodating rules, both from society and your parents, is a critical part of development. Don't try to short circuit it, the implied "wrong way to do it" that you are trying to short cut is how the world works and has worked from hunter gatherer days. I have a lot of experience…

I was raised with a computer in my bedroom and no limits on anything since I can remember. I started watching porn at around 8-9 years old, for example, and far worse stuff within a year or two. I also was allowed a lot of physical freedom which unfortunately led to a felony arrest when I was in my early teens. To be honest I'm not sure what effect this all had on me. What happened to your siblings? After all that an…

The question should not be framed as how many people (or children) come out ok after exposure to various forms of pollution, but how many are harmed and can that harm be avoided. Speaking hypothetically to illustrate, if only 5% of children are harmed by porn, that's still balanced against how many that are helped? none? That's a lot of net harm.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by nicklaf »

Tcepsa wrote: post #221
nicklaf wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an enlightened, modern parent, I try to be as involved as possible in the lives of my six children. I encourage them to join team sports. I attend their teen parties with them to ensure no drinking or alcohol is on the premises. I keep a fatherly eye on the CDs they listen to and the shows they watch, the company they keep and the books they read. You could say I'm a model parent. My children have never failed to…

This is a shitpost and/or copypasta, right? Maybe it's intended as a "Ha, look at the ridiculous sorts of FUD that folks posted about this stuff back in the day" but its tone is earnest enough--even with tons of obvious flags like the ones I mention below--that I'd encourage you to seriously consider adding a disclaimer of some kind. Some of the "tells": The whole thing has a "Chick Tract" vibe to it (personal, relat…

It's a troll! An infamous Slashdot/Usenet one at that, which in the day raised the hackles of many a * nix folk:

Adequacy first gained widespread Internet notoriety after the December 2, 2001 publication of a story entitled "Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?" The story was engineered to raise the hackles of as wide a swath of the Internet geek community as possible; it lampooned such topics as the Linux operating system, processors from Advanced Micro Devices, online gaming, and rave culture. Furor over the story spread quickly through technology / gaming blogs and Usenet newsgroups [1], and visitors came to the site in droves to express their opinions. The story received an official count of 5,913 individual comments, not including several thousand more that were hidden by the Adequacy editors. This figure even exceeds the record of the much more heavily visited Slashdot, which (as of November 21, 2006) stands at 5,687 replies to the story "Kerry Concedes Election to Bush".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adequacy.org#Notable_stories

My view is that Hacker News is, or ought to be, the spiritual successor to Slashdot. Sometimes (unfortunately) it seems, though, without the humor.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by searchableguy »

Mirioron wrote: post #193
searchableguy wrote: post #132

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I do think you should tighten up a bit before teens depending on your kids. For others, I would really advise you all to not rely on content blocking too much. Content blocking is one of the tools and you need more than one to fight off erroneous side of the internet. Be proactively involved in online activities of your kids. See: https://www.fastcompany.com/90539906/sex-lies-and-video-game... Side note: Limiting fre…

When you were young, did your parents successfully employ content blocking on your (computer) activities?

See bio and nope. Although I employ content blocking myself for trackers, ads, dumb stuff and mainstream media.

Due to censorship in India, you would probably know about vpn apps by teens.

I would have preferred if my dad blocked what I block today. Point towards the toxic wasteland and block it with an adequate explanation.

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