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The kid was chased by multiple felony offenders, one with a gun, and was attacked and knocked to the ground by another with a skateboard. The video evidence clearly shows he acted in self defense
He transported an illegally owned firearm across state lines and used it to kill two people.
The kid was chased by multiple felony offenders, one with a gun, and was attacked and knocked to the ground by another with a skateboard. The video evidence clearly shows he acted in self defense
... after he already had killed a protestor. After realizing what he did, instead of calling for help or staying to justify his actions, he ran away and shot two more people in the process. Then the police let him walk away. Please contrast this with the same police shooting an unarmed black man seven times in the back at close range while getting into his car. Imagine if he had 2’ long rifle on him too. I don’t reli…
The black man was not unarmed, he had a knife in his hand and a gun in his car. The police fired when he reached into the car. He already had the knife in his hand and told the police he was going to grab the other
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Whataboutism. And a terrible effort. There has been no confirmed violence traced back to left-wing groups. Criminality has mostly been opportunistic by local criminal gangs, spontaneous personal conflict or organized by law enforcement against civilians and journalists. Only right-wing groups are organizing terrorism. And the comparison is pointless. We should decry this behavior whenever we see it.
I don’t see the poster claiming this was left, right, whatever? Just trace the source.
Short answer is that it is all still irrelevant. Any attempt to organize violent confrontations on social media should be subject to removal. Incitement is explicitly excluded from first amendment protection. Planned rioting should absolutely be shut down as well but there's been no reports of that. Banning any organizing that could possibly lead to violence is definitely not the same thing.
There is a cached url available at: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3AaKHZ...
It looks like in the event itself there was no direct call for violence unless the event description has been lost with the caching.
The title just said: "Armed Citizens to Protect our Lives and Property" and it was hosted by "Konosha Guard".
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He was 17, so regardless of his actions, he's still a kid. And he wasn't just walking around, he was defending business and property. Earlier in the day he was cleaning graffiti off of buildings in Kenosha
My favorite response to this circulating right now is a photograph of Ted Bundy doing dishes. That was not his business or property. He was a vigilante.
I'm not saying that he's innocent. It's just crazy how "That was not his business or property" makes a valid point today.
The media spin going on regarding Kenosha is crazy. If I hadn't seen the videos of what happened, I would have assumed it was a white supremacist shooting peaceful protesters, not someone who was being attacked and only shot when he couldn't get away.
The first person was killed because he threw a plastic bag. "The complaint claims that cell phone video showed Rosenbaum, who appeared to be unarmed, trailing behind Rittenhouse before throwing a plastic bag at him. As the pair approached a car, a loud bang is heard, followed by an unidentified male yelling an obscenity. When Rosenbaum gets close to Rittenhouse, another four bangs are heard." The widely circulated vi…
For balance here is Kyle's lawyers statement on the incident where he claims one of his pursuers lunged at him to try and take his rifle and that was the reason for the first shooting:
https://wkow.com/2020/08/28/attorneys-say-accused-kenosha-sh...
> As Kyle proceeded towards the second mechanic’s shop, he was accosted by multiple rioters who recognized that he had been attempting to protect a business the mob wanted to destroy. This outraged the rioters and created a mob now determined to hurt Kyle. They began chasing him down. Kyle attempted to get away, but he could not do so quickly enough. Upon the sound of a gunshot behind him, Kyle turned and was immediately faced with an attacker lunging towards him and reaching for his rifle. He reacted instantaneously and justifiably with his weapon to protect himself, firing and striking the attacker.
The media spin going on regarding Kenosha is crazy. If I hadn't seen the videos of what happened, I would have assumed it was a white supremacist shooting peaceful protesters, not someone who was being attacked and only shot when he couldn't get away.
The first person was killed because he threw a plastic bag. "The complaint claims that cell phone video showed Rosenbaum, who appeared to be unarmed, trailing behind Rittenhouse before throwing a plastic bag at him. As the pair approached a car, a loud bang is heard, followed by an unidentified male yelling an obscenity. When Rosenbaum gets close to Rittenhouse, another four bangs are heard." The widely circulated vi…
Note that this is after the bag was thrown - the person who threw it continued to chase the shooter and was within contact distance.
Apologies for the domain. This is a heavily politicized event, and YouTube seems to be taking down the videos.
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... after he already had killed a protestor. After realizing what he did, instead of calling for help or staying to justify his actions, he ran away and shot two more people in the process. Then the police let him walk away. Please contrast this with the same police shooting an unarmed black man seven times in the back at close range while getting into his car. Imagine if he had 2’ long rifle on him too. I don’t reli…
First, calling them protestors is dishonest. At that point it had devolved into a violent riot. He ran away because an armed man was chasing him, and another with a skateboard. Also, he was taken into custody, not allowed to walk away. The three men who attacked Kyle were all convicted criminals as well. https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/12988734361... The black man was not unarmed, he had a knife in h…
Also, Jacob Blake did not have a gun. It's stil unclear whether he was holding a knife or sunglasses.
Don't outsource a core competency. Facebook has reached a point where moderation is at least as important as engineering.
They should investigate and see how a "17" years old is so brain washed to take a gun and go there. I hate rioters and looters, but I can't imagine how can I convince myself to go there with a gun. That isn't normal.
