How long before platforms start blocking websites using this logic? Or get rid of the web browser which suffers from this exact flaw?
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Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store
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That's a clever trick. Make the medium you want to censor a private property than it's legal.
And yet. There's a certain "side" that wants to have that both ways Private companies can't censor "bad opinions" But private companies can also arbitrarily refuse service for say, making a "gay wedding cake" How is this disconnect rationalized?
None of the reporting I saw on the wedding cake cases actually described the cakes.
Are we talking normal wedding cakes, that you can buy from nearly any baker, with some ordinary decorations, that just have two men's names instead of one men's name and one woman's name after the "Congratulations", and have two mass-produced little plastic men on top instead of one little plastic man and one little plastic woman?
Or are we talking something you'd get from a baker like Duff Goldman, which is a custom designed and made unique work of art specifically for you that captures the artist's interpretation of your wedding, and inherently is an act of speech on the part of the artist?
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#433For anyone else concerned with the recent Big Tech censorship, people are actively building alternative social medial platforms and they are taking off. The RedditAlternatives subreddit [0] provides a fairly good overview of them. Some are rather extreme, others are more reasonable, but there are alternatives, and it's up to us, the reasonable people, to choose where we want to spend our time and money. [0] https://w…
Weird to see HN just four links away from 4chan.
Wouldn't you expect less than that on a website literally designed to be a curated list of links?
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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
I love that aphorism. Unintended consequences. We should teach unintended consequences in grade school, high school, and have advanced degrees in it. How to see them before they explode, how to mediate them, and how to fix them once they're running at full steam. Lately I've been imagining it along with the slowly boiling frog story and the crab-mentality too. As in some people can't tell we're headed to hell because…
There's a hypothesis I came up with awhile ago and it seems to hold pretty true. If we talk about problems as O(n) where n is the causation distance[0] we've solved the vast majority of O(1) and O(0) problems. It makes sense that biologically we would be primed to think in this way because they are decent approximate solutions for small groups. But the world we live in now is much more complex and many events are coupled and the low order approximations aren't good solutions. The problem I see is that people are treating O(5) problems like they are O(1). As a society we discuss things in this way instead of trying to understand the complexity, nuance, and coupling that exists in many of our modern problems. A good example of this is global warming. People treat it as "if we switch to renewables then we've solved global warming" when reality is substantially more complicated. But I don't know how to get people to realize problems are higher order problems and that the first order approximation isn't a reasonable solution.
[0] So O(0) means x causes itself. O(1) is y causes x. O(n) is n causes y causes ... causes x. This is just a simplified framework and not meant to be taken too seriously.
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#435Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a clever trick. Make the medium you want to censor a private property than it's legal.
That's the problem of the all-private internet. There is no virtual street corner at which to protest. There is no internet post office to handle your mail. There is no internet water utility who isn't allowed to shut off your service no matter how many people complain about you. There is only profit. The moment you become unprofitable for whatever reason you will lose everything. If tomorrow 51% of the world decided…
>There is no internet water utility who isn't allowed to shut off your service no matter how many people complain about you.
speaking of shutting off water, this is happening in meatspace too: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/los-angeles-mayor-eric-g...
Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store
#436The rationale they gave is that hate speech appears on these apps, because some of the microblogging sites that can be accessed via Fediverse have this kind of content. Based on this rationale, I look forward to Google Play removing Chrome, Firefox, and all other web browsers from the store as well.
Why not just get rid of that troublesome feature called the internet?
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Unless there's a limitless supply of witches somewhere, the more witch-hunt-free towns there are, the more the witches will be distributed among those towns, because witches aren't a homogeneous group either. So in theory, voat & co should either shrink or get less radical the more reddit-alternatives there are. That is, unless reddit is turning normal people into witches that will then populate the new alternative p…
What do you think a normal person thinks when he sees a witch being burned?
Historically speaking, "Good riddance."
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Well, I can tell you what's bugging me personally about this. There's a growing divide in our society between the "equal opportunity" and "equal outcome" camps. And while the "equal opportunity" people mostly have the "just let me grill" attitude, "equal outcomers" are pushing increasingly harder, while doing their best to silence any opposing voices. It's now getting to a point where raising one's kids to be proud o…
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Well, I can tell you what's bugging me personally about this. There's a growing divide in our society between the "equal opportunity" and "equal outcome" camps. And while the "equal opportunity" people mostly have the "just let me grill" attitude, "equal outcomers" are pushing increasingly harder, while doing their best to silence any opposing voices. It's now getting to a point where raising one's kids to be proud o…
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>mostly just want people to have the same access to schools that whites have had for decades.
I would disagree with that. Kids from the families with inherited wealth always enjoyed their hilltop mansions, gated communities, private schools and Ivy League admissions by donation. And they continue doing that, they're above the rules. Nobody is going to put a low barrier social housing in their backyard, or force their kids to network with us, the plebs.
It's the middle class that made their own wealth is under attack now. Doctors, engineers, small business founders. Apparently, we can't have in a community with no used needles near the playgrounds. Because poor homeless. I can't apparently spend time teaching my pre-school kids to read and to write, so once they go to school, they can focus on more advanced stuff with other like minded kids. For the sake of social justice, the class has to be diluted by a few troublemakers whos parents didn't care. But, of course, not the class where the Governor's kids go.
Mind you, nobody will mind if you go and help the affected people directly. Go offer free counseling to homeless. Go teach Python to kids from poor families. Go do lemonade stand projects with underrepresented minorities. But do it in your own free time and at your own expense. I am pretty certain, many reasonable people will follow, since our society generally values being generous and positive. Except that's not what the activists are doing. They don't want to solve the problem in their free time, they want others to somehow find time and solve the problem for them.
>See, e.g. Glen Beck and Tucker Carlson urging their followers to doxx and threaten their critics.
I've seen the piece from Tucker Carlson. NYT journalists threatened to publish his home address. He stated that it already happened before, leading to threats to his family, and said that if they do it again, he will retaliate. He didn't mention any personal details there, so the NYT pulled back and they've reached a stalemate.
>See, for example, Hollywood, the NBA, the music industry, etc.
Hollywood has deteriorated to releasing heavily engineered comic book films. The art aspect is gone, the creativity is gone, many genres like parody/comedy are gone. Mainstream music isn't at it's peak either. It's pretty consistent with the left-leaning big tech, that focuses on making people replaceable drones following procedures, because they have much less bargaining power this way. I am not into sports, so no clue on NBA/NFL.
Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store
#440The rationale they gave is that hate speech appears on these apps, because some of the microblogging sites that can be accessed via Fediverse have this kind of content. Based on this rationale, I look forward to Google Play removing Chrome, Firefox, and all other web browsers from the store as well.
> Firefox
Don't give Google ideas.