They have repeatedly shown that they will do whatever they want, and then act contrite later if they're caught out. They are not trustworthy, and I won't run their software on any nonsandboxed environment AT ALL. There's utterly no reason to.
Zoom still don't understand GDPR
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It makes sense for them as a business to convert visitors to users to customers - nothing wrong with that for me.
Sadly, we live in a world where our expecations are a bit screwed. We're used to so many things being free, ranging from music streaming to programming libraries to nearly every service. We've become acustom to the world where so many things are free to use that people get annoyed when products make the free things not as enjoyable as the paid service. Or sometimes even when someone provides a paid service.
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Try a different browser. On Mac, Safari is much more resource efficient than Chrome for example. On Windows I'm not sure, but it can't hurt t give FF a try.
Last I checked FF was not even supported :)
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When Teams breaks, it's Teams's fault. When Jitsi breaks, it's your fault.
Been using jit.si for months with extended family (up to ~7 connections), not broken yet.
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When Teams breaks, it's Teams's fault. When Jitsi breaks, it's your fault.
Been using jit.si for months with extended family (up to ~7 connections), not broken yet.
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MS Teams has the same behaviour in web client. Is it browser-level restriction?
Google Meet has tiled view on web.
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> And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View". Is this a browser limitation or something? I think microsoft teams has the same issue.
Jitsi supports multiple videos, I've had at least 6 people before. We use GoToMeeting at work, and many times have 20 people with video, plus screen sharing (there's also gotowebinar which supports thousands of viewers). With GTM I love that you can seamlessly share without disabling your video. The web browser experience is hands down better overall then everything else I've used (Zoom, MS Teams, Slack, Jitsi, WebEx…
I prefer Jitsi’s gallery style — that lets you scroll through the participants with your actual scroll wheel — to Zoom’s — forcing you to drag your cursor back and forth across the screen’s longest axis every time you want go back a screen of participants after advancing one, or vice-versa.
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The web version also won't allow the host to request control from what I can tell. I use it daily for remote support because new webex sucks and no one knows what jitsi is.
For remote support, you may want to look into a more purpose-built system, such as TeamViewer or LogMeIn Rescue.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11826431 (TeamViewer denies hack after PCs hijacked, PayPal accounts drained)
Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR
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#230I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer. And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View".