This is another distraction for the current BLM movement and thousands of death per day due to covid. I see a lot of hypocrite comments and I just want to laugh. Meanwhile on the streets of Detroit or Baltimore ghettos, kids/teenagers are under the influence of criminal culture and facing generation after generation of poverty they may never come out of. And I see no one even trying to figure out a solution.
China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have a source for the ten bloodiest conflicts? Not saying you’re wrong just curious. Tiananmen Square and maybe some cultural revolution moments come to mind. But I also haven’t studied much Chinese history, which is why I’m curious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic...
Thank you!
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#233I can't believe this isn't something people are rallying for. Nor can I believe the mainstream media is hardly talking about it. The lessons from WWII aren't stories that we should memorise as fun trivia facts.
Maybe because they are already rallying for BLM? Americans are too busy before the election.
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#234This is another distraction for the current BLM movement and thousands of death per day due to covid. I see a lot of hypocrite comments and I just want to laugh. Meanwhile on the streets of Detroit or Baltimore ghettos, kids/teenagers are under the influence of criminal culture and facing generation after generation of poverty they may never come out of. And I see no one even trying to figure out a solution.
And what does this have to do with the article? Every time there is a post about the Chinese state committing some evil act, there is a post like this - whataboutism at it’s finest. Usually written by a new account, usually written in a way that makes it seem like English isn’t the primary language of the poster.
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#235To those that believe that they would not have turned a blind eye during WWII to the systematic extermination of Jews, the current generation has been given a similar challenge. Where is your cancel-culture now? How will our children think of us?
I’d take it further. If you do business in/with China right now you would of done business with nazi Germany.
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#236To those that believe that they would not have turned a blind eye during WWII to the systematic extermination of Jews, the current generation has been given a similar challenge. Where is your cancel-culture now? How will our children think of us?
Some of us don't have much power. I denounced it online several times, that's all I can do. People like Lebron James, who thinks of himself like a freedom fighter, when he criticized China he ended up saying he was misinformed and he wasn't educated about the issue. He loves the money coming from China more than anything else. I want him to be reminded by this. He put his millions before human lives, just like some n…
No, you have power to actually influence at least people in your circle.
At least on a personal level, you can start looking at the place of origin of products and be ready to pay more for an alternative.
There is a subreddit where people will help you out with recommendations as well.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
It depends on a lot of factors such as who and how many see your posts, how much you consume and how much you boycott etc. If you’re alone the impact is small but if others are starting to follow suit the number goes up fast and the voice becomes stronger. It is easy to think the impact is nill and that’s exactly how the opressor wants you to think, no wonder the divide and conquer is a strategy that works. But every…
Let me contrast that with something: opening a dialogue outside of an echo chamber. For example, a woman of Han descent who had her purse snatched by a Uighur kid talked about feeling nervous and clutching her bag when she passed someone on the street. Instead of lecturing her about systemic problems as a first resort, I started by finding common ground: her experiences as a Chinese woman studying abroad in Japan, an…
Yeah... I hear you and I think there’s a valid point here, but let’s not draw false equivalencies. Mass forced detention of entire ethnic groups is not comparable to systemic racism. One can argue that the US is systemically racist but we did elect a black president.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
By sanctioning responsible government officials and businesses related to the concentration camps. Currently, the US secretary of state is lobbying in Europe against Huawei and their 5G networks. The same thing should happen whenever there are massive human rights violations.
Going down that route would backfire hard, unless you want to go openly for different laws for different people. I.e. how would you convince European citizens that it's right to sanction Chinese businesses that profit from prison labor, but wrong to sanction US businesses that profit from prison labor? Or ignore those Europeans ... how do you convince US citizens of it? Sounds like they're quite angry about the domes…
The Uighur people are imprisoned solely for being not in the right/approved (i)religious and ethnic group. It's like if Germany decided to imprison or expel Romanians because they're mostly orthodox East Europeans.
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some of us don't have much power. I denounced it online several times, that's all I can do. People like Lebron James, who thinks of himself like a freedom fighter, when he criticized China he ended up saying he was misinformed and he wasn't educated about the issue. He loves the money coming from China more than anything else. I want him to be reminded by this. He put his millions before human lives, just like some n…
==He loves the money coming from China more than anything else. I want him to be reminded by this. He put his millions before human lives, just like some nazi collaborators did.== All of this could be said about our current President and his family. He has far more power than LeBron James, maybe we should hold him accountable?
You must not have been paying much attention. Trump has been sanctioning China because of Ugyhur camps:
https://nypost.com/2020/06/17/trump-signs-sanctions-bill-ove...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_Human_Rights_Policy_Act
I don't know what else Trump can do. Invading China is a bad idea.
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Why have you decided to boycott Chinese products? There's a billion people there, and most of them have nothing to do with the government. They just want to sell toys or computers or whatever it is, in order to be able to eat. I don't boycott Apple just because the country they are based in (according to the note in the box) has committed some crimes over the years. And in the US people at least ostensibly have the r…
The nazi Germany had millions of citizens too, just like you and me. People who wanted to live a happy and fulfilling life. We're not talking about bombing them. We're talking about economic boycott and economic sanctions. What else do you have in mind? How do we act against countries that commit crimes against humanity? Do we just stand and watch because they have millions of good citizens?
Economic sanctions should be directed at leaders. I don't see much use in random people boycotting random things from China, having much effect on the leaders.
I guess it may have effect if you tell your favorite seller on Aliexpress, that sorry, I will not be buying anymore stuff from you, because XYZ. But just stopping, means nothing. Sends no discernible signal to the other side, and just increases economic suffering, which while it can lead to revolutions, only probably when it hits some extreme level. Just look at Syria, massive sanctions, people can barely eat, currency is spiraling to hyperinflation, and they still have not toppled the corrupt asshole in charge. And I doubt having to spend half a day just figuring out how to get something to eat helps in any way. In fact corrupt asshole in charge is using the sanctions, to rally his supporters.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/syria-s-assad-say...
And that's the ideal case of a country west doesn't really need anything from and can boycott/sanction at will.