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Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by mola »

TheUndead96 wrote: post #2

To those that believe that they would not have turned a blind eye during WWII to the systematic extermination of Jews, the current generation has been given a similar challenge. Where is your cancel-culture now? How will our children think of us?

Well, US greed gave China this power. Cancel culture have nothing to do with this. There were a lot of left leaning voices in the ninetees warning against the trajectory of globalism.

The sell out of US manufacturing was done by people with money, not the people who dislike racism (and show it in a weird and harmful way).

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by rfoo »

aww_dang wrote: post #22
krm01 wrote: post #13

I can't believe this isn't something people are rallying for. Nor can I believe the mainstream media is hardly talking about it. The lessons from WWII aren't stories that we should memorise as fun trivia facts.

It hasn't been widely covered outside of the anti-CCP sources. It seems to be gaining a bit of traction lately. If you are interested, Epoch times, BitterWinter and others have been covering this for a long time. Establishment media partisans aren't shy about using Nazi comparisons. Over the past year you would have been more likely to hear criticisms of US immigration policies painted in this light.

> Epoch times

Friendly reminder that The Epoch Times is not a reliable news source, it promotes far-right politics in Germany, usually publishes conspiracy theories including QAnon, and was deprecated as a source by Wikipedia in 2019 [1], which means all edits containing links to The Epoch Times will be automatically reverted.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deprecated_sources#C...

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by jialutu »

Do you guys remember when a Chinese soldier beat up someone who was holding the Koran? Well, except, it didn't happen:

https://factcheck.afp.com/no-not-video-chinese-soldier-beati...

Also, when are people going to stop using satellite imaging as a proof of evidence? I mean, let's not forget the whole casus belli for the last Iraq war, where there was clear evidence of WMDs from all those satellite images right? I mean, what's so different from the satellite image there and also a random business park in the UK (besides the labels and tags of course, and I used to be imprisoned in one of those blocks for most of my day that some people would like to call an 'office'):

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6220549,-1.2900712,1099m/dat...

There's quite a few good answers here on Quora which I reckon are worth a read about the situation:

https://www.quora.com/What-are-Uyghurs-doing-to-fight-back-a...

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by genidoi »

waihtis wrote: post #30
tobyhinloopen wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you rallying? I perfectly understand why people aren’t rallying: it’s happening on the other side of the planet. What are we supposed to do?

Meanwhile, Europe was filled with BLM protests.

Systemic racism exists globally

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by Mediterraneo10 »

dade_ wrote: post #14

Karl Marx on religion “Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.“ A popular song: Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion, too The CCP is sim…

Chinese oppression of the Uighurs is not really a religious issue. Yes, the Chinese authorities would be happy to eradicate Islam because it is part of some Uighurs' identity, but China has cracked down on secular Uighur movements as well. There were even Uighur communists who were anti-religion, but still imprisoned in China or forced into exile in Turkey or Europe because they insisted on using their own language and not assimilating to the Han.

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Post by christophilus »

smhost wrote: post #5
TheUndead96 wrote: post #2

To those that believe that they would not have turned a blind eye during WWII to the systematic extermination of Jews, the current generation has been given a similar challenge. Where is your cancel-culture now? How will our children think of us?

Americans killed a million muslims and destroyed their homeland. China imprisoned a million muslims and put them in factories. Stop being so dramatic.

It’s almost like more than one country can do horrible things. Who’d have thought? It doesn’t make the situation in China any better to point out that other countries have also done bad things.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by pjc50 »

TheUndead96 wrote: post #2

To those that believe that they would not have turned a blind eye during WWII to the systematic extermination of Jews, the current generation has been given a similar challenge. Where is your cancel-culture now? How will our children think of us?

I genuinely believe this is getting less publicity because it's impossible to cover in the traditional way: there are very few first person sources and it's impossible to go there and film. Whereas unlimited media from the US domestic conflict is available.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by Nginx487 »

TheUndead96 wrote: post #16
dutch3000 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a million? really?

Just to address the comment above (it has been flagged and I can no longer reply directly). This is not a debate of America vs China. This is a debate of morality. We should not reserve judgement only for "bad guys". The reason China gets a free pass on this is because they are economically valuable to other countries. Chaining up pregnant women is bad, by all nations at all times.

I spot this demagogic argument from pro-Chinese position all the time: "they committed some crimes, so we have a right to do the same". Following that logic, they easily can justify their genocide with providing Holocaust as an example: "we just imprison and torture people, we do not burn them".
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