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I'm still baffled that some people, even here, think this is all made up propaganda from the West. Despite tons and tons of evidence. Kind of reminds me of how it must have been with people in denial about the early Nazi concentration camps, and Holodomor. I'm not saying this is as brutal as what the Nazis did (at least as far as we know,) just drawing parallels to the pure denialism or marking it up as pure exaggera…
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In the event of conflict, there's nothing stopping those countries from seizing Chinese assets in their countries. Heck, the US did that with Merck KgaA and Merck Inc during WW2.
The problem is technology. Here's a Serbian perspective: Huawei's Safe Cities project uses Chinese-owned and operated facial recognition technology, in cooperation with the Serbian Ministry of Interior, aggregating data from a hundred thousands of 4K security cameras around public places in Belgrade, and enabling tracking by person, and not by place and time. It is infeasible to disable this system and use a domestic…
Contrast with their "International Joint Venture Policy" for foreign companies operating in Mainland China, where this is specifically forbidden.
There are various levels of reporting in about what's happening in Xinjiang. I'm curious which ones of the following people here on HN believe are true. A. There is forced re-education, forced de-radicalization, and forced political assimilation (to fight separatism). Some camps are indeed for voluntary vocational education, others are for forced re-education. The number of people who are forced into camps, are a lot…
Too simplistic. Based on the generally available reports, and based on prior probabilities given the way this stuff has tended to work all over the world, I tentatively believe something close to this: There is forced re-education, forced de-radicalization, and forced political (and cultural) assimilation. One major motivation is probably to fight a (largely illusory) danger of widespread separatist violence. In fact…
I am certain the people creating the curriculum are aware of the political nature. Even "normal" educational institutions in China have an internal Party committee which will review material for ideological "correctness."
For projects like this the Party cadres are surely involved.
(This is a minor correction of an otherwise excellent post.)
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Same thing happens here btw on HN. Since I just said something against HN, I guarantee this comment will get downvoted into oblivion.
generally downvoting happens when you talk about voting in the meta, which is against the rules and spirit.
I am deliberately making an exception. Apparently, it didn't get downvoted but I've seen similar comments getting downvoted everytime I saw it without this disclaimer.
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In the event of conflict, there's nothing stopping those countries from seizing Chinese assets in their countries. Heck, the US did that with Merck KgaA and Merck Inc during WW2.
The problem is technology. Here's a Serbian perspective: Huawei's Safe Cities project uses Chinese-owned and operated facial recognition technology, in cooperation with the Serbian Ministry of Interior, aggregating data from a hundred thousands of 4K security cameras around public places in Belgrade, and enabling tracking by person, and not by place and time. It is infeasible to disable this system and use a domestic…
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The phrase Sinicization of Islam is Xi Jinping's, or at least the CCP's. It does sound grand and oppressive, especially when you consider that it is about more than just a considerate plan to minimize the threat of violent sects of Islam and includes stopping Islamic finance, mosque-run schools, religious Arabic-language schools, and more much worse as we've heard reports of (bits of which are reported in the article…
Religion is a part of daily life for many, many Chinese. It's different, not Abrahamic, more of a syncretic blend of taoist, buddhist and localized icons. Monks and nuns take their roles seriously. Xi's government, in contrast to the communist governments 60 years ago, leverages it in a standard social conservative way rather than being against it on communist grounds. It's all over their propaganda. Anti-communist t…
> Xi's government, in contrast to the communist governments 60 years ago, leverages it in a standard social conservative way rather than being against it on communist grounds
This is literally written on a thread about people jailed and tortured because of their religion.
> Why not either spend time learning about this place, or stop caring?
The Chinese government has made it impossible to communicate with the people in that region. How about they let reporters move freely and interview people?
Also, "stop caring*?
There is a Canadian named Jerry Grey, who went on a bicycle ride in China. He literally rode hundreds of kilometers in Xinjiang, away from mainstream tourist attractions, to remote places he himself is interested in. He was able to do that without government supervision; all the government checkpoints let him pass without much scrutiny. What he reports on is very different from mainstream media reports. One of his bl…
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In the event of conflict, there's nothing stopping those countries from seizing Chinese assets in their countries. Heck, the US did that with Merck KgaA and Merck Inc during WW2.
The problem is technology. Here's a Serbian perspective: Huawei's Safe Cities project uses Chinese-owned and operated facial recognition technology, in cooperation with the Serbian Ministry of Interior, aggregating data from a hundred thousands of 4K security cameras around public places in Belgrade, and enabling tracking by person, and not by place and time. It is infeasible to disable this system and use a domestic…
For most of the aforementioned countries, such as Italy or Greece, in the event actual conflict happens (say Russian aggression with Chinese support/interference), the ties are loose enough that they can be severed with much less economic harm, than say Serbia or Pakistan which are apparently deeply integrated with the Chinese economy.
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The problem is technology. Here's a Serbian perspective: Huawei's Safe Cities project uses Chinese-owned and operated facial recognition technology, in cooperation with the Serbian Ministry of Interior, aggregating data from a hundred thousands of 4K security cameras around public places in Belgrade, and enabling tracking by person, and not by place and time. It is infeasible to disable this system and use a domestic…
I was looking at the issue from a more EU-centric perspective tbf. Not from the PoV of say Serbia or Pakistan. For most of the aforementioned countries, such as Italy or Greece, in the event actual conflict happens (say Russian aggression with Chinese support/interference), the ties are loose enough that they can be severed with much less economic harm, than say Serbia or Pakistan which are apparently deeply integrat…
Bit by bit, all the vassal states an empire make.