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Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by infogulch »

the_pwner224 wrote: post #60
sellyme wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> after reading contents of the file In the same way I'm reading your mail if I look at it to see whether it's my mail, and then put it back down when I see your name. That is to say, not at all.

A better analogy would be that when uninstalling Zoom it looks through all of your emails to find its email. It has no business being there in the first place.

Cookies are just temporary passwords.

It's like Zoom goes through your temp password database to change your saved password for zoom.

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by dorkwood »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #5

I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer. And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View".

Web version wouldn't work at all for me. I had to install the app.

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by rndgermandude »

jjluoma wrote: post #43

At least zoom has privacy statement / policy page available on their web site unlike threatspike.com

Fair point. threadspike's homepage talks about how they store data in a - according to them - secure fashion in a secure data center in London. What this tells me is that they collect data and store data. Moreover, their article tells me that they do have access to a lot of information, or else they couldn't have known about the zoom behavior if their stuff didn't phone home such information.

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by basch »

Alupis wrote: post #47
Geezus_42 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The web version also won't allow the host to request control from what I can tell. I use it daily for remote support because new webex sucks and no one knows what jitsi is.

For remote support, you may want to look into a more purpose-built system, such as TeamViewer or LogMeIn Rescue.

If youre ok trusting smaller companies, AeroAdmin is a working alternative. https://www.aeroadmin.com/

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by andrewnicolalde »

infogulch wrote: post #71
the_pwner224 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A better analogy would be that when uninstalling Zoom it looks through all of your emails to find its email. It has no business being there in the first place.

Cookies are just temporary passwords. It's like Zoom goes through your temp password database to change your saved password for zoom.

Except you are UNinstalling the application? What cause is there to save anything that isn't already there at that point?

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by asciident »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #63
asciident wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zoom is an american company by the way. Its headquarters is in silicon valley. Its founder, chairman, and CEO is an american citizen. It has employees in California and China, like nearly all tech companies.

> Zoom is an american company Correct. But it has significant dev in China. Corporately, it’s American. But when describing its engineering decisions, it’s fair to call it principally Chinese.

Would you call Cisco and Dell principally Indian companies?

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by foota »

ignoramous wrote: post #38
DenseComet wrote: post #22

It's unfortunate that they bought and destroyed Keybase [1] in a bid to improve their security and even still there seems to be no improvement. Guess even the best folks can't make an impact if company culture prevents it. [1] https://github.com/keybase/client/graphs/commit-activity

> ...in a bid to improve their security Not specific to Keybase, but a lot of "cyber security firms" these days base their entire business on gross violations of privacy, unfortunately.

What?

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by Thorrez »

qppo wrote: post #11
saagarjha wrote: post #3

C'mon, what does it take for Zoom to understand that when people uninstall software they don't want parts of it to stick around forever?

Usually this happens because the person who wrote the file or daemon didn't write the uninstaller and no one gives a hoot about it at review. Never assume malice that which can be explained by a poor engineering culture

Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. Someone put functionality into the uninstaller that modifies your Chrome cookie jar. I don't know who you're referring to by "the person who wrote the file".

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by CydeWeys »

tesseract wrote: post #46
Geezus_42 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The web version also won't allow the host to request control from what I can tell. I use it daily for remote support because new webex sucks and no one knows what jitsi is.

Do you really think controlling your local desktop is an API feature that web browsers should provide to web apps?

Chrome Remote Desktop does it (requires a browser extension though I think).

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by zer0-c00l »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #63
asciident wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zoom is an american company by the way. Its headquarters is in silicon valley. Its founder, chairman, and CEO is an american citizen. It has employees in California and China, like nearly all tech companies.

> Zoom is an american company Correct. But it has significant dev in China. Corporately, it’s American. But when describing its engineering decisions, it’s fair to call it principally Chinese.

On what basis are you making that claim about how they base their engineering decisions?
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