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> And its only version 1.XX. Are there plans for a new version that is radically different, or is it going to be like Java or macOS where updates continue to change what is usually considered the minor version?
No idea, but I think it is impressive that a language that is still on "version 1.XX" has been so successful so far.
I see why go is clearly superior to C++. I see why it's simplicity is great for bringing new people up to speed. I see why it's concurrency model is better than many other languages. And I really like their software engineering philosophy. Go seems clearly one of the if not the best systems language around. But how is Go in the line of business web application space? The space that's historically been dominated by yo…
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> I see why go is clearly superior to C++. You shouldn't. If anything you should be looking into where C++ does better than Go and see if Go is improving there–and understanding that there will always be places where Go is not the best choice or even appropriate.
I'm sure Go is not better for every single use case. But it seems to be there were a lot of high performance systems that would have been written in C++, like InfluxDb for example that are clearly more reliable and easier to develop because it was written in Go. Where do you think C++ outshines Go?
Taking an example from the article, parts of Google's indexing pipeline are now in Go, but nobody is suggesting that the search engine would be.
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> And its only version 1.XX. Are there plans for a new version that is radically different, or is it going to be like Java or macOS where updates continue to change what is usually considered the minor version?
No idea, but I think it is impressive that a language that is still on "version 1.XX" has been so successful so far.
Important point: this is Google's use of Go, not your use of Go. Take note to check whether their results are applicable to you before adding it to your repertoire of "reasons we should use Go at our company".
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Honestly, it's not breaking news that Go is used heavily outside Google.
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Are you looking at the right page? The first three companies I see there are American Express, Capital One and Cloudflare on the list they link to: https://go.dev/solutions/#case-studies
I’m looking at the pages linked from https://opensource.googleblog.com/2020/08/new-case-studies-a... , which seems to be about Google’s use of Go.
Click on the link about the "sixteen case studies" and you'll see the rest.
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It's funny, if you'd asked me almost a decade ago which language would compete with Go, I would not have answered "JavaScript"! Yet, these days I find that's the trade-off: build something "quick" in TypeScript that's easy to modify but perhaps a bit brittle and slow(er) to run in production, vs build something very considerate and optimized in Go but perhaps not something you can easily change without hiring folks s…
I mean, it's hard to see Go as "very considerate and optimized" given the existence of modern, highly-efficient programming languages like Rust, D, perhaps Swift etc. It's obviously better optimized than JavaScript and its derivatives, or even Java/C#, but that's not saying much.
While Java is generally slow, that's more the fault of Java developers and their FooDangleProviderModuleBuilderBuilderFactories. Due to runtime optimization Java can be nearly as performant as non-GC languages. In principle there are even scenarios where it can exceed the performance of any ahead of time compiled language.
> Looking back from 2020, Go has succeeded in both ways: it is widely used both inside and outside Google, and its approaches to network concurrency and software engineering have had a noticeable effect on other languages and their tools. Don’t know much about go myself, but I’m interested in examples of this.
This is a friendlier world to work in than explicit green threads using keywords like async/await in other languages (Dart, Rust, JS)
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> And its only version 1.XX. Are there plans for a new version that is radically different, or is it going to be like Java or macOS where updates continue to change what is usually considered the minor version?
No idea, but I think it is impressive that a language that is still on "version 1.XX" has been so successful so far.
Whenever I work in Go, I have a lot more confidence in the efficiency of resource usage, and sense of stability that I just don't get from something like Node.js, where I'm constantly wondering... are any of these 1000s of dependencies going to suddenly do something weird like hijack my .env file? How is my program managing memory and overhead when it needs to interface with the kernel via a C++ wrapper? Are these machine resources even being capitalized on by Node.js properly? etc.
I've heard a lot of great things about Rust, and I've touched on it a bit, but Go is just awesome for its abstractions, ease-of-use, and of course insanely fast compile times.