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TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Post by yorwba »

rorykoehler wrote: post #212
yorwba wrote: post #207

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Have you perhaps heard of "reform and opening up"? It started being a thing in the 1970s and every Chinese government since then has opened up more and more, because that's how they're getting rich. The latest big move in that direction was the new Foreign Investment Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Investment_Law_of_the_... that went into effect this year, which introduced a bunch of big changes, such as sw…

I'll believe it when I see it. This law will be applied arbitrarily. Try critising Xi and see how far you get.

Is Tesla's wholly-foreign owned Shanghai plant enough to see to believe, or does Musk need to compare Xi to Winnie the Pooh first? https://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/2154674/tesl...

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Post by coliveira »

UweSchmidt wrote: post #163
coliveira wrote: post #148

The only data that TikTok is stealing is the latest hiphop dance moves by teenagers! This big hoopla was manufactured to paint Chinese companies as some kind of monster. Completely absurd. I'm really surprised how a bunch of otherwise intelligent people in this forum can follow for the disinformation campaign waged by Trump to paint him as a "protector of American freedom".

The owners of these popular social apps directly control millions, billions of people by presenting them with the content they decide and taking all the data about each individual, with stunning implications. The only ridiculous thing is that this is happening unregulated.

This is exactly what Facebook is already doing, in a far larger scale!

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Post by michannne »

ponker wrote: post #177
michannne wrote: post #129

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We could always go with the assumption the president is a bumbling idiot who can't tie his shoes properly. I'm sure that characterization will help understand the deeper picture here. /s You fail to see the point. I don't care either way how you wish to view the president, but your projections serve no purpose in understanding the reason why these events are taking place and what their ramifications are. As I stated…

I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that we are at the beginning of a war and we have a Commander-in-Chief who lacks the intellect, attention span, or perhaps even work ethic required just to utter a coherent sentence.

>I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that we are at the beginning of a war

We are not at the beginning of a war. I recommend you go outside for a breath of fresh air.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Post by kube-system »

coliveira wrote: post #147
threeseed wrote: post #95

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Because I can file a lawsuit against Zoom or I can speak to the press and have them investigate any evidence I may have. You can't do either with a Chinese company.

TikTok is not a Chinese company, it operates under US laws. You're just repeating disinformation spread by the US government.

> TikTok is not a Chinese company, it operates under US laws.

TikTok is a subsidiary of ByteDance which is headquartered in Beijing. It operates under US law, and it operates under the control of a parent company that operates under CCP control.

> You're just repeating disinformation spread by the US government.

The claims made by the person you are responding to are not things the US government has said. In fact, you can file suit against foreign companies in the US -- this person's misunderstanding of the situation has nothing to do with the US government's stated concerns.

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Post by lobotryas »

zorked wrote: post #217
jld89 wrote: post #210

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So you put China and Burundi on the same category? Really?

"I" don't put them anywhere, these categories are pre-existent. The WTO puts Burundi in a different list, of least developed countries.

The point is that many countries are claiming that China is abusing its designation of “developing country” and want that designation revoked. China, of course, is fighting that tooth and nail.

The only reasons that China passes the sniff test is because they have the biggest population that skews averages and because they also have insane income inequality. Only CCP propagandists would try to insist that a nation with the money for nukes and aircraft carriers is still “developing” :^)

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Post by michannne »

claudiawerner wrote: post #208
michannne wrote: post #172

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Yet it is, but for the sake of fast-forwarding the disagreement, let's assume for now that Drake, or any other male rapper celebrity, or any other celebrity period, or any semi-famous man has never in private conversation talked about how easy it is for them to take advantage of their celebrity status to get what they want from women. When you assume that, then the president looks quite like the rare unique case, wou…

At the very best then, it'd be the way he said it (so, the phrasing) combined with the fact he's the president (or was running to be), a role which we expect not only the highest levels of decorum but also humility and respect for the citizens, and combined with the fact that just because Drake might do it, it doesn't mean it's an OK thing to do. I don't know about other people, but I'd definitely criticize anyone fo…

You're perfectly free to decide how you view someone based on what they've said. My issue is do not then assume that everyone who isn't as offended is somehow being unreasonable or that the world has descended into nonsense. I don't condone what he says, but I understand that people do say those things, and I separate what he says in confidence from how he acts in situations where it matters - I see a 0% chance that the president will talk about groping when having a discussion with Vladimir Putin.

>a role which we expect not only the highest levels of decorum but also humility and respect for the citizens

That has never been the case. Nixon was known to vilify journalists, Clinton had already been known for his womanizing and sexual unforwardness, and LBJ pissed in the street casually. Never have we had a highly curated robot as a president, they all have quirks that would turn off segments of the population if it were common knowledge.

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Post by kube-system »

coliveira wrote: post #145
russli1993 wrote: post #128

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Bytedance is incorporated in the Cayman Island, its not a Chinese company. It has a subsidiary in Hong Kong that operates the Chinese business. Its this portion of the business that has to adhere to Chinese laws. The rest of the company, including the US subsidiary is not under the jurisdiction of Chinese laws, and the US subsidiary fully owns TikTok. The data storage and content moderation are all handled by US empl…

There is no point in showing facts, people here are operating under Trump's misinformation spell. They think china is in every corner trying to steal their data (of course Facebook has already done this first, but who cares).

You misunderstand the concern. The US government is concerned about national security interests, not personal privacy interests. You may also note [0] that Facebook (and Twitter, and YouTube) has been the subject of similar concerns by the US government.

[0]: https://freebeacon.com/national-security/congress-targets-so...

> They think china is in every corner trying to steal their data

Because they factually are. But as some people misunderstand, they're not interested in your grandma's recipes or your mom's credit card number -- they're amassing data that is a gold mine for targeted military intelligence operations.

https://www.wired.com/story/china-equifax-anthem-marriott-op...

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Post by wdr1 »

koonsolo wrote: post #64

As a European I find this whole story very confusing. A president that can just force a specific company on very short notice to shut down operation, is very concerning. What is even more concerning is that a lot of people here tend to agree because of the China thing. If it is that important, why is there no law that enforces this?

> As a European I find this whole story very confusing. A president that can just force a specific company on very short notice to shut down operation, is very concerning.

What country do you live where this is not true?

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Post by rorykoehler »

yorwba wrote: post #221
rorykoehler wrote: post #212

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I'll believe it when I see it. This law will be applied arbitrarily. Try critising Xi and see how far you get.

Is Tesla's wholly-foreign owned Shanghai plant enough to see to believe, or does Musk need to compare Xi to Winnie the Pooh first? https://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/2154674/tesl...

It’s one data point.
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