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TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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As a European I find this whole story very confusing. A president that can just force a specific company on very short notice to shut down operation, is very concerning. What is even more concerning is that a lot of people here tend to agree because of the China thing. If it is that important, why is there no law that enforces this?

To me, this whole TikTok escapade highlights just how dangerous the situation has become with privacy and "tech". From everything I have read and seen, "TikTok" is a gimmick, another frivolous way to kill time, a passing trend. This is not a company that produces anything important for society. Except when we consider that what the app purports to be for its users or advertisers is not its true value/purpose. TikTok is a surveillance vector. We can all pretend that privacy is not a serious issue except amongst tinfoil hats, activists or those tasked with defending the tech industry. However this bizarre story, to me, suggests otherwise. Personal data, access to it, the right to spy on millions of people, carried out by the private sector, is now being fought over by nation states. Younger generations should be up in arms over surveillance. Instead, at least in the US, they want to use these apps and work for these shameful companies. Older generations, who should know better, are willingly using Alexas and the like. Interesting times.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Why are you focusing on the vulgarity of the comments and not the fact that it would be non-concensual? > I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything. Those very heavil…

I honestly cannot see why you'd think I would listen to what he said and use that to form a general opinion of his leadership capabilities. How one talks about fondling random women is not something I'd use as a measure of their ability to lead a country >Trump talking about random women, who are not his wives nor in a relationship with him as to how he just kisses them and they let him since he has the power is for…

> How one talks about fondling random women is not something I'd use as a measure of their ability to lead a country

Holy bejesus. And how is his ability to lead a country? Do you think it is as good/poor as how he seemingly treat random women?

On the topic of ethics, how about the ethics of having sex with (and then paying off) a porn star, that's not gossip since the courts have basically confirmed Stormy Daniels told the truth.

How shallow does your judgement go (oh I can guess, but I thought I'd prompt you to do some self-reflection)? Being a leader is mostly about people skills, and his rapey hands should make you ask whether he respects women or not, and whether that would extend to him respecting other people or not. OK Genghis Khan was a good leader, he also did a lot of raping, sadly for Trump and his defenders the kind of leadership needed nowadays isn't the 11th century kind and I doubt he could ride a horse fast.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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The only data that TikTok is stealing is the latest hiphop dance moves by teenagers! This big hoopla was manufactured to paint Chinese companies as some kind of monster. Completely absurd. I'm really surprised how a bunch of otherwise intelligent people in this forum can follow for the disinformation campaign waged by Trump to paint him as a "protector of American freedom".

The owners of these popular social apps directly control millions, billions of people by presenting them with the content they decide and taking all the data about each individual, with stunning implications.

The only ridiculous thing is that this is happening unregulated.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Worlds of difference between those countries and functioning democracies.

Kim Jong-nam was assassinated in public, at an airport in South Korea. It's not like these folks are limited to their own borders. How many hours is a transpacific flight again? No doubt that "not pissing off the Chinese government" is one of the many reasons Mayer won't be speaking freely about the U.S. selloff in public.

Kim Jong-nam was assassinated in public, at Kuala Lumpur International Airport, Malaysia.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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The US must be viewed as an empire not just any country. If the empire sees something as a threat, it will find legal justifications for doing anything and it will absolutely make distinctions between local corporations or ones with too many ties to rival geopolitical states.

Pretty much every country does that. Look at IP disputes where courts constantly find for their own country's company, often to the point of making new law at the supreme court level to do it. What does that have to do with empires? An empire rules over others, while any country will take care of its own.

> Pretty much every country does that.

The smart ones do.

While TikTok is more domestic. Huawei is definitely viewed as an empire threat and the US is acting way beyond what other countries are doing.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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What I still don't understand is why European governments haven't made tit for tat measures against China in corporate law. Why do we allow free market access to chinese companies when they don't? Are we crazy? Why not give the keys to our factories/companies while we are at it?

Low growth prior to COVID, a weightier dependence on trade with China, and the lack of anything slightly resembling a unified foreign policy don’t leave much room to maneuver as a whole, nevermind on their own.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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no american tech ceo is getting killed because of a minor dispute like this why does everyone on HN think we're in some low budget spy movie

What makes you think that? The Russian government just poisoned another opposition thinker, these things are not beyond the pale. North Korea hired a couple of pretty girls to kill a renegade brother or somesuch in public . China has disappeared people over just a few wrong words If I were in that position I'd make sure I have at least a couple bodyguards, and good ones at that

> The Russian government just poisoned another opposition thinker,

wow i didn't know he was an american CEO. you're a genius.

> North Korea hired a couple of pretty girls to kill a renegade brother or somesuch in public.

wow i didn't know being an american CEO made you the brother of a dictator in an authoritarian country

> China has disappeared people over just a few wrong words

wow i didn't know the american CEO was a chinese citizen

what an incredibly stupid comment. i have never left a trolling comment quite this stupid. and ive left a lot of stupid comments. holy shit dude

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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You do realize Barack Obama fucked his wife right? Multiple times as they have 2 children. They probably talk dirty to each other when they're alone, like almost every other couple that exists. Should I now think less of Obama on the off chance he secretly spanks his wife in bed? My point is you have to be very far removed from society to believe that no one has ever talked in a vulgar fashion, especially in a countr…

From your 2 replies I'm presuming you are a Trump defender, at least you're denying parts of reality and twisting facts so they conform to your image of the world (that he's a good, at least decent president, and that you're not an idiot for supporting him). Sorry, the issue isn't the private conversation, the issue is that the contents of that conversation was him saying he can get away sexually assaulting women bec…

I can't reply to your other post, presumably because the thread is too deep. For one, you continue to make assumptions about me. By all means feel free, if this year has been any indication I can only expect the vilification of anyone not immediately damning the president will continue.

>Holy bejesus. And how is his ability to lead a country? Do you think it is as good/poor as how he seemingly treat random women?

I don't know how to get across to you the point that people talk about dirty things in private. If you want to believe that that kind of conversation is the domain of devils, be my guest, you don't seem like the type to be swayed by reason.

>On the topic of ethics, how about the ethics of having sex with (and then paying off) a porn star

I still don't care, unsurprisingly. It really isn't that hard.

>How shallow does your judgement go

Because I choose not to base your abilities on how you talk to your friends in private? Then release all of your text messages for the public to see, since you seem to be living in a reality where people all hold hands and sing kumbaya, and talk about science and hand-holding every waking moment of the day. You have a job, don't you? Would you also be so deaf to posit to me you don't have any skeletons in your closet? I'm able to make the reasonable judgement that the president doesn't go around for his scheduled 2 PM rape session every Thursday, but apparently that's too much, and I should dial back my comparisons to the guy's humanity.

>OK Genghis Khan was a good leader, he also did a lot of raping, sadly for Trump and his defenders the kind of leadership needed nowadays isn't the 11th century kind and I doubt he could ride a horse fast

Truly ironic that you're simultaneously able to make the distinction there is not a 1:1 correlation with leadership capability and personal action for a literal rapist but not for the president. If anything this discussion has shown me how disgustingly vapid people can become when they are unable to refrain from having their emotion leak through every single post when the word "Trump" is brought up.

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It's easy to forget that China is still a developing nation (~$10k gdp/capita) and protectionist policy is designed to allow developing nations to strengthen domestic industries. If "free access" were permitted, these Chinese companies would surely be absolutely crushed by their US counterparts and its citizens would forever be consumers of US goods while forever providing the cheap labor to produce them. To build se…

>If "free access" were permitted, these Chinese companies would surely be absolutely crushed by their US counterparts and its citizens would forever be consumers of US goods while forever providing the cheap labor to produce them. I feel like if you were to replace China with Europe your statement would still apply for the software sector.

Sure. Europe would be well served by building a moat around European tech upstarts.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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We're still talking about Donald "grab them by the pussy" Trump here, aren't we? ANYTHING is possible in the USA since that guy got president.

You do realize Barack Obama fucked his wife right? Multiple times as they have 2 children. They probably talk dirty to each other when they're alone, like almost every other couple that exists. Should I now think less of Obama on the off chance he secretly spanks his wife in bed? My point is you have to be very far removed from society to believe that no one has ever talked in a vulgar fashion, especially in a countr…

>My point is you have to be very far removed from society to believe that no one has ever talked in a vulgar fashion, especially in a country as sexualized as ours.

Using vulgar phraseology is not the issue here. I'm not sure how you came away with that impression.

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