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Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by stordoff »

the_gipsy wrote: post #10
t3rabytes wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not true -- https://www.google.com/maps/place/Aviano+Air+Base/@46.033364...

Try this one, I just noticed it while on vacation nearby: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ccm3ZcQ771mb6Jtj8 Edit sorry I can't link to satellite view from mobile. It's the Mola Fortress on Menorca.

If you look at the historical imagery in Google Earth, it'll show your the 2015 imagery fine: https://i.imgur.com/Jk8Kn1r.png

It's noticeably lower resolution than the surrounding 2017 imagery, but it doesn't appear to be censored in the same way (it's of the same quality as the surrounding areas when imaged in 2015).

It does the same for what appears to be a large circular antenna installation just to the west of here.

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Razengan wrote: post #8

Speaking of maps, I've always wondered what's in that huge, mostly-unlabeled region that is more than half of Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Russia It looks like it could comfortably fit a few countries and then some. Even when watching history documentaries there's a period where Russia is basically a thin strip at the western edge of its current territory, before suddenly and inexplicably blowin…

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Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by meiraleal »

throwaway69123 wrote: post #25

How as a consumer do I avoid the moral dread of buying made in China when 99% of everything is made in China.

That's funny. For me as a Brazilian, 99% of things coming from China are made by American companies. I'd love to be able to not consume of this too.

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by yters »

throwaway4good wrote: post #30

"Alison Killing conducted this reporting with a grant and further assistance from the Open Technology Fund." From wikipedia: "As of November 2019, the Open Technology Fund became an independent nonprofit corporation and a grantee of the U.S. Agency for Global Media.[7] Until its formation as an independent entity, it had operated as a program of Radio Free Asia." Radio Free Asia ... founded by the CIA and a today wel…

Even for sake of argument it is propaganda, why does that mean it is false?

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by tyingq »

nickthegreek wrote: post #16
tyingq wrote: post #11

The story seems to counter the popular view that BuzzFeed is low brow, low effort journalism. Did they have some kind of campaign to get better?

buzzfeednews and buzzfeed are not the same thing.

Ahh..that's what I missed. Googled it, apparently they moved the "real news" to its own domain in 2018.

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by speps »

enriquto wrote: post #15
the_gipsy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try this one, I just noticed it while on vacation nearby: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ccm3ZcQ771mb6Jtj8 Edit sorry I can't link to satellite view from mobile. It's the Mola Fortress on Menorca.

In France, many military and nuclear facilities are also smoothed out in google maps. It seems a bit ridiculous since you can easily see public (free and paid) satellite images of the same places.

Frenchelon example:

Blurred: https://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=44.786389~1.238056&style=h...

Revealed: http://osmz.ru/imagery/#18/44.78662/1.23807/mp

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by [deleted] »

throwaway4good wrote: post #30

"Alison Killing conducted this reporting with a grant and further assistance from the Open Technology Fund." From wikipedia: "As of November 2019, the Open Technology Fund became an independent nonprofit corporation and a grantee of the U.S. Agency for Global Media.[7] Until its formation as an independent entity, it had operated as a program of Radio Free Asia." Radio Free Asia ... founded by the CIA and a today wel…

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Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by propertymagnate »

crispyporkbites wrote: post #29
throwaway69123 wrote: post #25

How as a consumer do I avoid the moral dread of buying made in China when 99% of everything is made in China.

Disproportionately purchase items made in your own country. Encourage others to do the same. Vote for government officials who encourage similar policies, write to government official who do not. Start/join action groups, engage in political debate at all levels. Start / invest in a local manufacturing company, run for local office, run for president, get rich and invest in local brands.

These are excellent suggestions. I've been wishing for some kind of "made in democracy" stamp, or a "produced humanly" if that would also shut out other more moderate manufacturing centres, similar to fair trade chocolate.

https://www.fairtradeamerica.org/shop-fairtrade/fairtrade-pr...

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by jjcon »

throwaway4good wrote: post #30

"Alison Killing conducted this reporting with a grant and further assistance from the Open Technology Fund." From wikipedia: "As of November 2019, the Open Technology Fund became an independent nonprofit corporation and a grantee of the U.S. Agency for Global Media.[7] Until its formation as an independent entity, it had operated as a program of Radio Free Asia." Radio Free Asia ... founded by the CIA and a today wel…

Coming from an account created six hours ago it is kinda ironic you are suggesting they are a state actor with no refutation of the premises.
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