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Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Some science experiments require visiting the same patch of ocean repeatedly. Having access from an underwater lab means that scientists can spend more time doing science and less time traveling to/from the site and decompressing. My uncle is a marine biologist and spent time living in an underwater lab in Florida. Aside from all the diving he was able to do, he said it smelled like a high school locker room and ever…

On the plus side, you don't have to worry about your soda fizzing over... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJiUWBiM8HE

A YouTube video that jumps right in to the main point and doesn't have any "don't forget to subscribe!" stuff in it is kinda jarring in 2020.

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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On the plus side, you don't have to worry about your soda fizzing over... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJiUWBiM8HE

A YouTube video that jumps right in to the main point and doesn't have any "don't forget to subscribe!" stuff in it is kinda jarring in 2020.

way to paraphrase the top comment on the video

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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A YouTube video that jumps right in to the main point and doesn't have any "don't forget to subscribe!" stuff in it is kinda jarring in 2020.

way to paraphrase the top comment on the video

I have YouTube comments disabled. Everyone should.

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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While the majority of French people would probably have been somewhat anti-semitic, I'm not sure that it's fair to say that the majority of French people were hoping that the Nazis would get on with deporting the Jews, already. That letter really is pretty bad.

The letter is prety bad, but my understanding is that until the atrocities committed by the Nazis forced the other Europeans to confront their antisemitism, such ideas were widespread in all European countries. [Edit: and of course, antisemitic ideas persist to this day.] Pretty much the same thing happens today with islamophobic ideas and with "the last racism", i.e. hatred towards Gypsies, Roma and Travellers, even…

Yeah, I would agree that the whole thing is a bit of a side issue wrt the grandson.

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Would someone please explain what this is about? How are kpop bands (or their audience) "keeping democracy alive"? Genuine question, there's obviously something I've missed.

A lot of KPop fans are very organized on social media (mostly Twitter/Tiktok/Instagram) and know all the best tricks for them, which they usually use to push their favorite bands. At the same time it also gives them a lot of power whenever social issues are discussed on those platforms. Recently, they've been involved with BLM in various forms[0] and orchestrated the "million ticket" Trump rally prank[1], so very dir…

"Keeping Democracy alive"...by preventing voters from attending an event by certain politicians.

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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> I would prefer if journalist learned to provide something more factual and informative in their stories It is deeper than that (no pun intended); many journalists seem to be lacking the critical thinking skills required to judge whether a story passes a basic sniff test when it comes to science and technology. The Proteus project is not the ISS of the Sea, it is a vanity project. Clickbait from cnet is par for the…

I wonder if journalists are no longer getting the same on-the-job training they got with print magazines? Maybe the cycles are too quick, it's too easy to convince yourself that you can fix a mistake post-publication, and you don't interact with as many experienced coworkers throughout the process. Are we the baddies?

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Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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and what little journalism is presented is drowned in a sea of opinion pieces trying to tell me how angry or scared I should be.

Easy publishing has removed a few kinds of signaling that we used to have. An article in the Wall Street Journal (chosen at random to have a proper noun) had a different gravitas than the hand-stapled 15 lb paper booklet the scruffy guy shoved at you in front of the market. Now the scruffy guy got shave and a haircut, has access to equipment that is almost but not quite as good, and the "WSJs" have reacted by engagin…

A 12 year old has the same reach and visibility as a real journalist. Normally this would be a good thing. The problem is that the audience has no way to discriminate across almost any intellectual plane.

I have seen this happen in local Facebook groups. I remember an instance where a dreadful, spiteful, verbally violent exchange of hundreds of posts was triggered by this community member starting a thread. Neighbors saying the ugliest things imaginable to each other. It was truly sad to witness.

Nobody bothered to see who started the thread.

It was someone who had just finished high school. In other words, a 17 to 18 year old, maybe a bit older.

The subject isn't important, what is important is that someone with exactly zero life experience, zero responsibility for herself or others, decided she could actually post one of the most ridiculous thoughts on a subject she could not possibly comprehend for many years.

People got launched into the most vile verbal battle I've seen in a long time because nobody took a moment to consider the source. Had this comment been offered in person, in the context of a town hall meeting, she likely would have been told to please sit down, listen, learn and come back once she had a kid or two, a mortgage, a job and the realities that come with adult life.

The internet has allowed this kind of thing to happen. It isn't about age, it's about a range of variables that used to create categories of trust. You had to earn this ranking over time in order to have reach. Today no such thing exists. Google, YouTube, FB, Twitter, TikTok and others will gladly hand you an audience of billions of people, truth and other standards of quality, in this context, are meaningless.

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Jacques Cousteau was a horrible person, both personally (bigot, anti-Semite, pathological liar) and professionally. It's inexplicable that he passes for a defender of nature when in reality he "explored" things by blowing them up with explosives and destroyed unique sites, etc. The grandson is a different person of course; but he invokes his grandfather's name as a reference and proof of competence. Don't fall for it…

I wonder if we could get a number of people to destroy their Apple devices by pointing out the fact that Steve Job was an absolutely horrible person. Drove a car without plates so he could park in handicap spaces, Denied his daughter was his, etc. Apple was founded by Steve Jobs and the entire culture was dictated by him, it is inexcusable to say that Apple products are separate from that. Or we can say that unreason…

> This does not mean we have to celebrate the person.

Yet that's what we are doing when we introduce an article about an underwater device by the name of the grandfather of the promoter of said device.

"Joe Shmoe's grandson wants to build something" doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Cousteau falsely claimed to have been a member of the Résistance when he was in fact protected by the occupying German army. His first film received a positive critique in his brother's newspaper Je suis partout in 1943, which launched his entire career. He later said the film only came out in 1946. The part about his personal life is to further substantiate the "liar" part. It's not just that he had a "mistress"; he…

What "heroes"? Why do we care about Jacques-Yves Cousteau's character? We are commenting on an article about a project by Cousteau's grandson. Why does Jacques-Yves Cousteau's lying or antisemitism have anything to do with Fabien Cousteau's project? In any case, why do we need to judge anyone's character in a HN thread? What is this, inquisition by internet forum? That is just the worse, lowest form of internet activ…

> We are commenting on an article about a project by Cousteau's grandson.

Exactly. And we wouldn't be talking about it were it not for the affiliation.

> This is at the level of the darkest recesses of 4chan.

Right. Does this count as Godwin's law?

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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He was a great oceanographer, engineer, filmmaker, and he opened the eyes of multiple generations on what lies in the oceans and how it's fragile and important to protect it. Isn't that worth a monument? He may have said/done/been bad things at the same time. Do we bury all bronze busts of Wagner?

He blew up coral reefs with dynamite!! By this measure, the Monkey Christ affair "opened the eyes of multiple generations" on the importance of religious paintings.

Here is an article putting back in context the method they used to count species:

https://www.levif.be/actualite/environnement/quand-le-comman...

Nowadays scientists use poison instead of dynamite, is it better? That shows you these methods have strong rationales, even if they seem stupid at first.

And at the time the Sea was still a big unknown, Cousteau greatly contributed to open this unread book.

So you see, you do not have to feel compelled to destroy him and his work.

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