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Beating Google ReCaptcha and the funCaptcha using AWS Rekognition

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That's not my problem. As a user I should not be inconvenienced for a problem caused by someone else. The offending party should pay the price.

That's not the server's problem. As the server, they should not be inconvenienced for a problem caused by someone else. The users (which includes the bots) should pay the price.

Do you want my business? I have gone elsewhere with my money instead of solving for crosswalks before

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Audio and video evidence isn't admissible because it's audio or video (and may be inadmissible nonetheless). It's admissible because someone testifies under oath that they have personal knowledge of its provenance. The burden is on the party introducing the evidence to show that it's reliable, and the question of whether or not it is indeed reliable is a factual one for a judge or jury to answer. It's not assumed to…

It will be inadmissable because of the psychological effects. Imagine having someone claim you murdered someone. Also you happened to drive by that park where the person was murdered at the same time. Now someone wants to frame you, perhaps because you are a celebrity or a person with money to extort from. So they claim that they saw you murder this person. Normally, this wouldn't hold any water and no jury would con…

Deepfakes will change the entire outcome of trials the same way photoshop changed the entire outcome of trials before it.

Also you should see the type of video evidence used in court. It’s grainy 5 FPS surveillance footage that doesn’t even show their face. Deepfakes are not necessary if you want to frame someone.

Re: Beating Google ReCaptcha and the funCaptcha using AWS Rekognition

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Interesting. Two things that I found interesting: 1) ip addresses he uses have probably really good reputation, because even with rather bad image recognition ability it still lets him in. 2) surprisingly enough google's captcha apparently doesn't consider mouse movements at all - the bot selects images rapidly one immediately after another and always clicks in the same place of image.

> surprisingly enough google's captcha apparently doesn't consider mouse movements at all - the bot selects images rapidly one immediately after another and always clicks in the same place of image

Yep, it's Google cookie based, not behavior on the page. You can only use the tab and enter key to successfully complete the captcha if you have enough Google cookies.

Re: Beating Google ReCaptcha and the funCaptcha using AWS Rekognition

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Does it beat ReCaptcha v3?

Apparently yes.V3 is just the system used by V2 to give puzzle difficulty. I scored 0.7 for 40 hours on Vision API videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tPcs06fgbg Go to the channel for the other 3.

Thank you for the link, I could t find it!!!!

Re: Beating Google ReCaptcha and the funCaptcha using AWS Rekognition

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Sci-fi author John Varley covered this in one of his novels. In a society where anything digital can be manipulated, the veracity of a speech or event depends on a network of trust and people who witnessed the event in real life . If someone made a speech in front of hundreds of live, physically present spectators, these spectators can then verify the authenticity of any recording, and as long as there people in that…

What happens when there's a global pandemic and everyone is forced to stay home and not attend witness any of these speeches, but instead has to watch the broadcast over the internet and/or TV?

Then we just generate the speeches and let public figures do more work dealing with the pandemic, because it doesn't matter at that point.

Ideally anyways. Realistically, we probably just argue on the internet about which talks were real (in this case generated by the person pictured in them).

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#106

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That's not the server's problem. As the server, they should not be inconvenienced for a problem caused by someone else. The users (which includes the bots) should pay the price.

Do you want my business? I have gone elsewhere with my money instead of solving for crosswalks before

And that works very well for every website you pay to use.

What percentage of websites that you use is that, exactly?

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It will be inadmissable because of the psychological effects. Imagine having someone claim you murdered someone. Also you happened to drive by that park where the person was murdered at the same time. Now someone wants to frame you, perhaps because you are a celebrity or a person with money to extort from. So they claim that they saw you murder this person. Normally, this wouldn't hold any water and no jury would con…

In your examples, it would most likely be a Mistrial scenario, the jury would be dismissed, and the prosecuting team would have to start over again from scratch later, assuming they aren't themselves in trouble for introducing faulty evidence.

I’d be really curious to hear about a case where prosecutorial misconduct was punished. Don’t they have something akin to the “qualified immunity” that the police enjoy?

Re: Beating Google ReCaptcha and the funCaptcha using AWS Rekognition

#109

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That's not my problem. As a user I should not be inconvenienced for a problem caused by someone else. The offending party should pay the price.

That's not the server's problem. As the server, they should not be inconvenienced for a problem caused by someone else. The users (which includes the bots) should pay the price.

Finally, someone willing to advocate for the voice of the server rather than the obstinate user!
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