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Pieter Levels Makes $600k a Year from Nomad List and Remote OK

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Re: Pieter Levels Makes $600k a Year from Nomad List and Remote OK

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If you don't get why the fact a high successful venture is using such a barebones tech stack is not noteworthy, you must be following a different tech industry than I am

I mostly follow HN, a successful tech forum that is written in a single lisp file and runs on a single server. It’s not surprising to find successful projects run with a simple stack. The opposite is more surprising.

It's a single lisp file? That's pretty cool, Is this public somewhere?

Re: Pieter Levels Makes $600k a Year from Nomad List and Remote OK

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I would say that for every Pieter on this planet, there are thousands of failed Pieters. The success of his business niche doesn't have much to do with tech stack or even programming, but rather Instagram style lifestyle businesses.

Agreed, almost any developer could build the same products. The real reason for success is by selling the nomad lifestyle via social media. People buy into the dream.

And it's a very tenuous dream at that, I'd say. It requires constant handholding, upkeep, juggling, whatever you want to call it, to manage all of the visas, plane tickets, bookings, finding remote work, finding a network of people for which reason you allegedly moved to the country :)

Call me square but it's much easier to just overpay for rent in the USA and just focus on building "bulletproof" skills for a long career here.

After all, nobody stands up postgres on EC2 anymore right, we all just use redshift and lambdas? right? ok well maybe not all of us :)

Re: Pieter Levels Makes $600k a Year from Nomad List and Remote OK

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What the parent and original post seem to be implying is that simplicity, efficiency, tech stack (or lack there of), isn't what drives success in a business, it is instead the customers paying. Sure having a modern infrastructure that is able to process thousands of requests per second is better than something that can only do a few hundred, but if you strip out a bunch of excess requests, you will process less per u…

And save money + time. The most important part is people paying you money. Modern startup culture is full of inefficiencies + silly trappings (nice offices, drive to hire people, make things more complex, take more money from investors to stave off figuring out taking money from customers)

100%. Shameless Plug - In fact, I'm currently building an "inefficient," "micro" web framework specifically so I can build more stuff, more quickly [1].

An entire app can be build in a single js file (with only one dependency... and it's 150 or so dependencies and sub dependencies).

1: https://github.com/jeremyaboyd/simplemvcjs

Re: Pieter Levels Makes $600k a Year from Nomad List and Remote OK

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post #44

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What site is that? :)

I knew someone would ask. Sorry but I’m not gonna reveal it, don’t want competition. I will say it’s been online for over a decade, information rich, with affiliate lead generation as the main source of income.

If it's the Milliondollarhomepage.com then it isn't quite living up to its legacy ;)

Re: Pieter Levels Makes $600k a Year from Nomad List and Remote OK

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post #53

If you don't know who Pieter Levels is, the title makes it sound like this person makes $600k doing remote coding work on jobs found on Nomad List and Remote OK. In actuality, he is an MBA who runs these two businesses.

> In actuality, he is an MBA who runs these two businesses.

No snark, what does having an MBA have to do with running those businesses? Curious why you chose to include that?

Re: Pieter Levels Makes $600k a Year from Nomad List and Remote OK

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I don’t usually like to toot my own horn, but I make $600k/year off a plain HTML static site that isn’t even coded well, in-line CSS, many pages not responsive, broken links, etc.

I have a site like this as well and it makes about a paltry $40k on a good year. I mostly got lucky because I had some niche domain knowledge for a specific industry that was lacking a web product. I wasted money trying to grow it for some time but I've come to accept even at it's full potential it would probably only make maybe double of what it does now at max. I hope someday though i'll stumble across a $600k a year opportunity.

Re: Pieter Levels Makes $600k a Year from Nomad List and Remote OK

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post #67

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Also he's up to about 900k now the video referred to is old.

that's run rate - he had a recent spike up to 1m run rate. his biz is quite volatile.

Yep, it's about $710k/y with Nomad List and Remote OK only now. Add to that more side income from MAKE book, other smaller projects and investments

Re: Pieter Levels Makes $600k a Year from Nomad List and Remote OK

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I did not know if this person until today, very glad for their monetary success.

However, the technological choices that he makes seem fine for the type of web applications he's building: seemingly simple, one-off projects to which he adds more features as needed.

I don't know if that approach would work on maintaining a large code base in the case of a meatier project that needs to be maintained for the long term. My own experience doing web dev (which is not my specialty) is that HTML,CSS,JS quickly become unmaintainable when you try to scale them without a well though out architecture and some prior experience.

Once again, glad for him!

Re: Pieter Levels Makes $600k a Year from Nomad List and Remote OK

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It's worth remembering that while his tech stack is low tech stuff, the methods Pieter used to build a community is basically the marketing equivalent of using React, powered by a microservices architecture using multiple languages and feeding data from a sharded database with multiple points of redundancy and cache layers.

Re: Pieter Levels Makes $600k a Year from Nomad List and Remote OK

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post #60

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I've found that Apple uses sqlite too, for Safari history and if I recall correctly macOS Notes app too.

Apple built Core Data on top of sqlite. There are probably a lot more Apple apps using it than just Safari and Notes. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coredata/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Data

ahh that explains it, very good to know, thank you.
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