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Microsoft Statement in Support of Epic [pdf]

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Re: Microsoft Statement in Support of Epic [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have always seen iOS devices as consoles, or at least closer to consoles than PCs. Anything with a locked App Store and a locked boot loader is a console by definition. MacOS is a general purpose computer OS. Considered as a console iOS is actually more open and capable than most.

You should let Apple in on that definition so they’ll stop marketing and selling the iPad as a general computing device.

Exactly. How many times has Apple said the iPad is a laptop replacement?

Re: Microsoft Statement in Support of Epic [pdf]

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Apple succeeded in what Google has failed with, namely to put value on quality apps. A few small missteps and it will become like Android or Windows Phone.

Quality and crap can’t coexist?

They should only be vetting the privacy and security of apps, and let users decide what is crap.

Re: Microsoft Statement in Support of Epic [pdf]

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If they feel so strongly about it let Epic open a store inside the Xbox. What? Didn’t think so.

Last I knew you could buy games for the Xbox from people other than Microsoft. Best Buy, for instance

Ah, but Microsoft still takes a cut of that sale, it just happens at a different part of the chain. On top of that, Xbox live takes a 30% cut of all micro transactions, just like Apple.

Re: Microsoft Statement in Support of Epic [pdf]

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I'm extremely surprised that Apple would engage in something that could in court be perceived as retaliatory against someone who is filing a complaint regarding anti competitive behavior. The definition of anti trust is to use your position in one market to gain an unfair advantage in an other market. By denying Epic access in the game engine market, Apple is trying to get Epic to fold in the game distribution market…

Then Epic should have gone to the court without pulling the stunt

Re: Microsoft Statement in Support of Epic [pdf]

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If they feel so strongly about it let Epic open a store inside the Xbox. What? Didn’t think so.

Last I knew you could buy games for the Xbox from people other than Microsoft. Best Buy, for instance

Except you can't get your game on the shelf without Microsoft's explicit (contractual) approval, and (of course) paying them a royalty for each copy sold.

Re: Microsoft Statement in Support of Epic [pdf]

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If they feel so strongly about it let Epic open a store inside the Xbox. What? Didn’t think so.

The letter is only in regards to the Unreal Engine being blocked. It will directly impact Microsoft and other game developers not directly involved in this fight. They did not mention Fortnite or alternate stores at all.

That's 100% at Epic's fault. First of all, they willingly put their customers at risk. Second of all, they could've put the engine business in a different entity, keeping it safe from their games business

Re: Microsoft Statement in Support of Epic [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should let Apple in on that definition so they’ll stop marketing and selling the iPad as a general computing device.

Exactly. How many times has Apple said the iPad is a laptop replacement?

It is for a subset of the market that only uses the web and a few apps. Otherwise, no, and Apple knows it which is why they are sticking their ARM silicon in Macs and continuing to evolve MacOS.

Re: Microsoft Statement in Support of Epic [pdf]

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have always seen iOS devices as consoles, or at least closer to consoles than PCs. Anything with a locked App Store and a locked boot loader is a console by definition. MacOS is a general purpose computer OS. Considered as a console iOS is actually more open and capable than most.

> Considered as a console But it's not just a console.

Locked boot loader, locked App Store. It’s a console.

Re: Microsoft Statement in Support of Epic [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The letter is only in regards to the Unreal Engine being blocked. It will directly impact Microsoft and other game developers not directly involved in this fight. They did not mention Fortnite or alternate stores at all.

That's 100% at Epic's fault. First of all, they willingly put their customers at risk. Second of all, they could've put the engine business in a different entity, keeping it safe from their games business

Even if they did that... Apple would just ban, because they can/want.

I'm not fan of Epic however if the court rules Epic as right, we are about to see an important precedent to a less monopolized market.

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