Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app to add purchases

Post by ubercow13 » Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 2:04 AM UTC

adventured wrote: post #60

7tsfmCAusrQ wrote: post #36

As an app developer myself, with apps on both the Google Play Store and the App Store with over 250K monthly active users, I have become so frustrated with Apple's arbitrary and capricious enforcement of its App Store regulations, its bullying and coercion of developers, its extortionate fees, and its monopolistic anti-competitive practices, that I have stopped updating my apps on the App Store. I wonder how many oth…

> its extortionate fees Their fees are not so high as to be extortionate. They're not close to being deserving of that hyperbolic label. The Apple and Google fees are a dramatic improvement over the model that they gradually replaced over the past decade. Want to get on a retail shelf? Nope, you can't. One in a zillion odds you find someone to publish your box to retail - congratulations, now you get to keep less tha…

Post by scarface74 » Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 2:04 AM UTC

partiallypro wrote: post #79

bloblaw wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> [..] and its monopolistic anti-competitive practices, iOS owns 25% of the market. How is that a monopoly? You might not like their policies, but as you mention, you have a choice to move to a competitor with a vastly larger market share. > I'm better off turning to the Play Store or one of the many other app stores that can be used on Android devices. Doesn't this demonstrate that the Apple AppStore isn't a monopol…

a) Global market share is irrelevant, show US share, which is about 51/49 b) Apple makes up the plurality of all store revenues, despite having a smaller install base both globally and in the US. c) You can display monopolistic/duopoly behavior without having 100% of the market.

Post by scarface74 » Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 2:06 AM UTC

ubercow13 wrote: post #91

adventured wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> its extortionate fees Their fees are not so high as to be extortionate. They're not close to being deserving of that hyperbolic label. The Apple and Google fees are a dramatic improvement over the model that they gradually replaced over the past decade. Want to get on a retail shelf? Nope, you can't. One in a zillion odds you find someone to publish your box to retail - congratulations, now you get to keep less tha…

I don’t know where to start with this. Antitrust is specifically about big corporations, that’s the whole point. We treat them differently. You’re saying if the market was opened up, prices would drop due to competition, so that means it shouldn’t be opened up? You think Apple’s in a situation where it has an unfair burden despite being one of the largest companies in the world?

Post by yzmtf2008 » Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 2:09 AM UTC

partiallypro wrote: post #79

bloblaw wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> [..] and its monopolistic anti-competitive practices, iOS owns 25% of the market. How is that a monopoly? You might not like their policies, but as you mention, you have a choice to move to a competitor with a vastly larger market share. > I'm better off turning to the Play Store or one of the many other app stores that can be used on Android devices. Doesn't this demonstrate that the Apple AppStore isn't a monopol…

a) Global market share is irrelevant, show US share, which is about 51/49 b) Apple makes up the plurality of all store revenues, despite having a smaller install base both globally and in the US. c) You can display monopolistic/duopoly behavior without having 100% of the market.

Post by scarface74 » Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 2:10 AM UTC

travisjungroth wrote: post #32

rubber_duck wrote: post #5

Really at this point Apple control over app store is anti-competitive (and Google over play store), having to rely on community outrage to get stuff like this turned is ridiculous. They should create legislation to control access to all app stores to prevent this rent seeking - force app stores to treat all apps equally according to store defined guidelines (including store owners apps) - any submissions have to be r…

Im not really into congress defining how apps get reviewed. I’d rather see it just get broken up in some way. Either you can’t have a phone and an app store (like the studio/movie model) or they at least have to support other app stores. Side note: my iPhone autocorrected app store to App Store, which I think is another example of overreach.