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Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Irony if this was done for political reasons that it was by law enforcement who have a strong union.

Not ironic. Police unions are fundamentally different than other labor unions. This might spell it out for you: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-to-know-police-unions-l...

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Police have existed long before democracy (and socialism). Also I don't follow on how democracy implies socialism.

The first police force was created in the early 1800s, the concept of democracy pre-dates that by thousands of years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police#Ancient_policing

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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The camera in question is a Canon PTZ camera with 20x optical zoom, model VB-H41: https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/de...

They're also using Wago 222[0] style lever nuts, which are not common in the US. In my experience, US electricians use twist-style wire caps instead to create junctions. [0] https://www.wago.com/us/wire-splicing-connectors/splicing-co...

They're awesome, so much better than twist-ons. Fully approved in the US, just more expensive up front.

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Irony if this was done for political reasons that it was by law enforcement who have a strong union.

Not ironic. Police unions are fundamentally different than other labor unions. This might spell it out for you: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-to-know-police-unions-l...

I love that this is in Teen Vogue. It used to be that you'd only see this in Socialist Worker Daily or something.

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first police force was created in the early 1800s, the concept of democracy pre-dates that by thousands of years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police#Ancient_policing

I’m aware, but that’s pretty different from the purpose and structure of modern police departments.

Edit: After reading about the Romans a bit more, it does sound similar. I still hesitate to agree with the assertion that police predate democracy though.

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Given the physical access, could the device be taken over to discover the specific identity of the surveillors? IP addresses, malware implants..

Yes. And you could feed in whatever surveillance footage you wanted. Some of the boxes have enclosure open switches though.

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My understanding is that this was a SkyCop camera, which is what has been used in Memphis. Those cameras are requested by the neighborhood, and the neighborhood raises the money for the camera. Then, the MPD purchases the camera, installs it, then hooks it up to the RTCC feed. If this installation went according to that same format, this activist may know full well why the camera is there - assuming he attends neighb…

SkyCop cameras are anything but covert. They are meant to present an obvious police presence. https://www.skycopinc.com/ https://www.google.com/search?q=skycop+camera&source=lnms&tb...

Thanks. I'm well aware of how Skycop cameras appear, as well as their website address. The MPD has over 2,000 of them deployed.

Did you consider, if this camera box existed and was covert, how it was located immediately after it was placed? Who was it that climbed the pole to open a box that said, "High Voltage," and take pictures of the inside? If the actual box looked nothing like a Skycop deployment, why was the finger of blame pointed at MPD? There is more to this story than the blurb that was reported in this article.

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I challenge you to find a sector of society to whom police (and their unions) are not antagonistic.

Other police officers

I don't think you've spoken with actual police officers much, there is huge divide between state police and local police in the US.

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Not ironic. Police unions are fundamentally different than other labor unions. This might spell it out for you: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-to-know-police-unions-l...

I love that this is in Teen Vogue. It used to be that you'd only see this in Socialist Worker Daily or something.

The fact that it's Teen Vogue is 100% why I chose to link this and not any other article I could Google about cop unions.

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Nothing mysterious about this. Surveillance has long been a known tactic of capital's resistance to what it deems a threat.

Ah yes, it’s the response of _capital_, which explains the lack of surveillance in Communist states

The pendulum hasn't swung in that direction yet. I'd be concerned about both ends but the one we are in right now is the one to fear.
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