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Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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That goes the other way too, if not more so: The union should stay out of such political matters; especially if they expect their continued funding to be above political reproach. That funding is a private tax, backed by force of law, imposed on the income of the workers. Via political "donation" a large part of it goes to politicians, ensuring that the politicians continue to allow it. This is deeply corrupt. We hav…

Senseless. Money governs access to political power in this country. You would take away nearly the only alternative tool regular working people have to make their voices heard with impact and call it "deeply corrupt" - how do you reason yourself into this place?

> Money governs access to political power in this country.

Billionaires who failed to get anywhere in the Democratic primary: Bloomberg, Steyer.

Remember, all political campaign funding plus all think tank funding plus all media funding is less than the US spends on almonds each year. Money doesn’t buy political influence in the US, it flows to it.

> (in case you’re keeping track: all donations to all candidates, all lobbying, all think tanks, all advocacy organizations, the Washington Post, Vox, Mic, Mashable, Gawker, and Tumblr, combined, are still worth a little bit less than the almond industry. And Musk could buy them all.)

https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/09/18/too-much-dark-money-in...

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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The accusation that the police are surveilling union organizers is extremely troubling, and harkens back to the early 20th century when cops killed union organizers. The police should stay out of such political matters; especially if they expect their continued funding to be above political reproach.

The Twitter that exposed pics of this linked elsewhere on HN claims it's related to Operation Legend, which has nothing to do with union organizing per se -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Legend

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Senseless. Money governs access to political power in this country. You would take away nearly the only alternative tool regular working people have to make their voices heard with impact and call it "deeply corrupt" - how do you reason yourself into this place?

> Money governs access to political power in this country. Billionaires who failed to get anywhere in the Democratic primary: Bloomberg, Steyer. Remember, all political campaign funding plus all think tank funding plus all media funding is less than the US spends on almonds each year. Money doesn’t buy political influence in the US, it flows to it. > (in case you’re keeping track: all donations to all candidates, all…

Money will only get you so far in your public facing political ambitions if you are politically incompetent (Bloomberg) or devoid of charisma (Steyer). But money got both of them to the stage.

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Unions are democratic organizations that exist to advocate on behalf of their members. Of course they should be involved in politics.

Corporations are voluntary organizations that exist for the benefit of their owners and if their owners don’t like their politics they can leave much more easily than any union member can. Of course they should be involved in politics.

If you cap corporation's contributions to the same as each individual member of the union, no problemo.

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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The accusation that the police are surveilling union organizers is extremely troubling, and harkens back to the early 20th century when cops killed union organizers. The police should stay out of such political matters; especially if they expect their continued funding to be above political reproach.

My understanding is that this was a SkyCop camera, which is what has been used in Memphis. Those cameras are requested by the neighborhood, and the neighborhood raises the money for the camera. Then, the MPD purchases the camera, installs it, then hooks it up to the RTCC feed.

If this installation went according to that same format, this activist may know full well why the camera is there - assuming he attends neighborhood meetings.

If this installation didn't go according to tbat format, I am completely against people being specifically surveiled without a warrant. Volunyary video of the place where people live is one thing, the other is completely against the foundational principles of this country and the natural order that should be followed by our government.

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I’d bet 1:2 odds that this activist wasn’t the target and they’re just trying to get some low effort dope busts.

I think you're right.

It's a little confusing to me, but this article makes it sound like the camera was set up on a pole in front of a relative's house, but pointing at a different "family property" where Antonio was living.

There's some older articles talking about how he lives at his grandmother's house, and his uncle lives across the street. Both houses were raided by cops in 2018 due to alleged cocaine dealing and they made 2 arrests (One cousin had a small amount of weed, and another cousin had an outstanding warrant for assault)

When that happened he talked about how he felt like his family was being targeted due to his activism. Perhaps, but IMO the generic "the war on drugs" is a more likely cause

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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When I was younger a friends parent worked for an LEA that did this to spy on people suspected of social security disabilities fraud.

This was in the mid 1990’s, he showed me pictures of literally this exact thing high voltage sticker and all.

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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I’d bet 1:2 odds that this activist wasn’t the target and they’re just trying to get some low effort dope busts.

I'd bet 1:1 odds that even if it were, ITS STILL ILLEGAL TO POINT A SURVEILLANCE CAMERA AT A HOUSE WITHOUT A WARRANT.

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Can someone from the US please explain why would police surveil a union organizer? How is s/he a threat to the public?

The Memphis Police Department has been under a federal consent decree for over 40 years. Spying on labor and civil rights groups is just part of their act.

https://www.aclu-tn.org/blacklisted-memphis-police-surveilla...

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