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Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Post by kuon »

kwanbix wrote: post #219
Iolaum wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to worry about that BS if you use free software alternatives either. Plus you get to contribute to an alternative ecosystem that is also a lawful and moral alternative (Because piracy is both illegal and immoral in many circles.)

How do you contribute by using free software? You contribute if you give something, mainly coding or money.

As a major Open Source contributor, I'd say that advocating the software goes a long way.

For example, in one of my last job (I'm a freelance), I could get paid full time to contribute to open source tools because the guy taking the decision heard about PostgreSQL and open source somewhere. If that guy has only heard about Oracle, the same work would have gone closed source.

If the person responsible for the office solution of a school heard of open office from you, you did help a lot. Because many times, big open source users will invest in open source, in form of support, custom development or just sponsoring.

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Post by Someone »

mattmanser wrote: post #278
vosper wrote: post #247

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> a factoring company: which buys unpaid invoices from freelancers for a fee or a percentage of the invoice-amount Getting way off-topic here, but I’ve never heard of this. Is it like a bill-collector for freelancers? Who do the non-payers tend to be - is it companies who think they can stiff a freelancer, but who will pay up when someone with teeth comes knocking? Also, can anyone sell an invoice on to someone else…

These are debt collectors, you've definitely heard of them, and they're all super shady. This is just how it works. A normal business, say your bank or you energy supplier or your software supplier, will try and recover a debt with some basic attempts. But then they'll bundle together all their debts and sell them to debt collectors for pennies on the pound. Don't know why they're called a factoring company in Hollan…

Because that’s what it’s called in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factoring_(finance):

“Factoring is a financial transaction and a type of debtor finance in which a business sells its accounts receivable (i.e., invoices) to a third party (called a factor) at a discount“

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Post by overcast »

scblock wrote: post #81
overcast wrote: post #26

CaptureOne is a great product if anyone is looking for alternatives at this time. No BS subscriptions, just a license.

They have plenty of subscription options and push subscriptions hard on their landing page. They also have a really goofy "buy different versions depending on your camera" model. It's kind of gross, frankly, and has kept me from even trying the software.

So? It says BUY or Subscribe on each button, that links you to purchased versions. Those camera model versions are cheaper subsidized, so you're not paying anywhere near full price.

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Post by vishnugupta »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #98

In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

> While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation).

Yep! They have a thing called “yearly contract, billed monthly “. It took me a few minutes to understand what it meant. The first time I came across such a contract in the software world.

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Post by rootsudo »

johnchristopher wrote: post #322
Aachen wrote: post #210

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Is that legal in the USA? Entering into a purchase agreement ("koopovereenkomst", not sure if I'm translating the jargon correctly) and then just not paying? Because that's certainly not legal where I live. I understand that the odds of repercussions are small and that there are no damages on Adobe's side since you haven't physically taken their goods so it would probably have to be taken up by the public prosecutor…

I recently wanted to get some practical knowledge with cloud storage buckets and my first choice was Azure (for no other reasons that name was shrouded with mystery). Free trial, etc. I give my phone number (something like "for legal reasons"). Then it asks for my CC. I already hate it because it's highly dubious they need my CC number for a free trial since it's not needed to deliver the product. Fine, I give it. Th…

Well, to shed insight on Azure.

1. Phone number is required to minimize fake/bot/fraudulent use accounts.

2. Credit card is required in case you want to immediately scale up, and also, used as anti fraud as depending on the card used, and address is used to judge you as a customer and whether or not you should be disabled immediately upon account creation.

Credit cards first six numbers are the BIN, or bank identification number, these are used to sort whom the issuing bank is, what type of credit card line, and whether or not it is a virtual or such.

These are compounded to give you an antifraud score. Address and connecting IP address help too.

So that's why it was denied, but for a company like Micrsoft, their billing practices are very much streamlined and not so hidden vs other companies nor do they introduce "tricky" language such as Adobe's yearly contract, payable monthly SAAS.

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

Shared404 wrote: post #115
jarym wrote: post #72

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Piracy exists to keep corporations honest.

While that's a tempting view, in the case of Adobe piracy exists to drive adoption. Most of the time, piracy is used because it's just more convenient then properly paying [0]. Those who still pirate, despite there existing a more convenient option to pay usually can't afford it, and will pay when they can. In the meantime, the name of your program becomes a verb and an industry standard, and everyone has to deal wit…

Payments in fiat are very user-hostile though, and very few vendors can afford cryptocurrency.

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #98

In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

An acquaintance of mine introduced his friend in India, who was supposedly working for a contractor whose job is to harass companies pirating Adobe products into buying a contract; He proudly claimed that "he reported his Ex-employer to Adobe due to bad blood and harassed them to pay several several lakh rupees".

I've heard earlier that such agencies work for Microsoft, Adobe in India but that was the first time I've heard in-person from someone working for them. Adobe has every right to stop piracy of its products, but I wonder the legality of harassing the pirate instead of making a legal complaint. I presume it doesn't happen in US?

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Post by gwbas1c »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #98

In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

You should have chargebacked. Unless it was 100% unambiguous that you entered into such a contract, the credit card company will side with you.

Edit: I've only had to chargeback once, in a situation that I tried to work out with a vendor. Other times, I've had to threaten a chargeback to vendors who didn't deliver promised goods.

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