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Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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From "koopovereenkomst" I assume you are Dutch or Belgian. In the Netherlands, a "koopovereenkomst" most often means you have a "payment obligation" (betaalverplichting). The whole invoicing system where people pay afterwards, hinges on this principle. Disclaimer: IANAL (But I helped as software developer at a factoring company: which buys unpaid invoices from freelancers for a fee or a percentage of the invoice-amou…

> a factoring company: which buys unpaid invoices from freelancers for a fee or a percentage of the invoice-amount Getting way off-topic here, but I’ve never heard of this. Is it like a bill-collector for freelancers? Who do the non-payers tend to be - is it companies who think they can stiff a freelancer, but who will pay up when someone with teeth comes knocking? Also, can anyone sell an invoice on to someone else…

Factoring companies are actually pretty common. They don’t cover disputes (where a client disagrees).

It’s used by sportsclubs here as well, since hunting down people for small amounts of money is a pain.

ClubCollect is a large one working in parts of Europe

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Ah yes, the cloud! Trust in the cloud folks! How about adobe stops treating their pockets as my personal storage space, and keeps my files secure on my own device instead of deleting everything they didn't have a copy of. This is why I don't buy software that comes with a subscription and a deal with the devil.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Slight sidebar: it's so frustrating that Adobe made the new Lightroom some cloud based monstrosity. For photographers with serious workflows involving local disks, we're now relegated to "Lightroom Classic" which makes me feel like I'll be discontinued in N years from now. I hope they change course and drop this whole cloud thing, the yearly subscription model is bad enough.

Apparently they're doing pretty well. Don't expect them to change course. But this created the opportunity for others. I have migrated to Affinity photo + Capture One. No regrets.

Can Capture One migrate my existing LR catalogs?

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Is that legal in the USA? Entering into a purchase agreement ("koopovereenkomst", not sure if I'm translating the jargon correctly) and then just not paying? Because that's certainly not legal where I live. I understand that the odds of repercussions are small and that there are no damages on Adobe's side since you haven't physically taken their goods so it would probably have to be taken up by the public prosecutor…

I did the same. I just stopped paying and told my CC company to block transactions because I never agreed to them. Adobe is very unclear about what you’re actually agreeing to up until the point you’re cancelling. I just blocked transactions and never heard from them again (except for some emails). If they want to fight it, good luck winning it in Dutch courts when the conditions are unclear.

Everybody on the net is always like "Just told my bank to block the transaction" - when I did that, in a EU country, my bank was very reluctant.

They wanted proof that I had been in contact with the company and tried to get a refund from them, and that I in fact didn't owe them money.

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In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

I also highly recommend Affinity Photo. It covered all of my use cases for photoshop and some for lightroom. Adobe is a scummy corporation who doesn't deserve their customers.

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Does anybody know a good photo management software that's not Lightroom? I don't actually need to do edits to my photos - I need to manage my photo library. Lightroom is not great at it but is passable - is there anything else? What I'm looking for is software that: - Is fast - Is capable of leaving photos where they are ("import-in-place"). - imports photos from card to NAS, organized by time ( year/month/day) - all…

another os and locally installed solution: https://www.digikam.org/

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Affinity Photo or Pixelmator Pro are great replacements for Photoshop. Resolve and Final Cut are much better than Premiere. I'm still looking for a replacement for After Effects and Illustrator though. I've heard Affinity Publisher is a great InDesign replacement although I've never used it.

Sketch and Figma are amazing for UI work in vector.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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I did the same. I just stopped paying and told my CC company to block transactions because I never agreed to them. Adobe is very unclear about what you’re actually agreeing to up until the point you’re cancelling. I just blocked transactions and never heard from them again (except for some emails). If they want to fight it, good luck winning it in Dutch courts when the conditions are unclear.

Everybody on the net is always like "Just told my bank to block the transaction" - when I did that, in a EU country, my bank was very reluctant. They wanted proof that I had been in contact with the company and tried to get a refund from them, and that I in fact didn't owe them money.

Yep same experience with a US company that had gone broke, publicly said so on their website, yet still had renewed a subscription I had with them after the public statement that they would no longer deliver anything.

Ended up with months of paperwork, claims from the other party that I ordered it myself (no idea where as the website to order was gone) including printouts of Stripe with my IP address which was supposed to prove their point.

Five or six mail forms to fill out (yes _mail_ not email) over the period of months with very strict deadlines.

They must have gathered the IP address from an earlier transaction a year before that. It also did not raise any flags that the transaction was exactly one year later on the minute.

An incredible waste of my time and if I had to go through all of that again I will just let it go.

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I don't know about software, but pirated games are generally more secure, stable and performant with less spyware than the official games with all the DRM.

Citation needed. I guess you’re probably right but companies are way more accountable than random internet person who modified the dll/binary to work without copy protection.

No, for companies anything goes because copyright. They are in god mode, farming users.
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