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Re: The 212-story skyscraper in Melbourne, Australia

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Are you thinking of something like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostankino_Tower ?

Reminiscent of the fernsehturm in berlin. [0] It's kind of nice. You can usually keep track of where you are in Berlin, by triangulating around the tower, which is visible from a great distance and in one of the "centers" of Berlin [1]. If you're ever lost, you can just walk towards it, and eventually you'll end up in the one of metro's nexus at Alexanderplatz. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernsehturm_Berlin#/m…

Similar setup in Dublin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spire_of_Dublin

Re: The 212-story skyscraper in Melbourne, Australia

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Crashing into stuff is great fun and probably the first impulse of anyone booting up a flight simulation program (especially kids) -- so much so that flight simulation software was the target of a moral panic in 2001 after the September 11 attacks were conducted by crashing real jets into buildings. Some people began to think of flight sims as "terrorist training tools" and call for them to be banned. That's probably…

> flight simulation software was the target of a moral panic in 2001 after the September 11 attacks were conducted by crashing real jets into buildings. Some people began to think of flight sims as "terrorist training tools" and call for them to be banned. I've been wondering if this is why there was so little flight simulation software out there in the last ~15 years or so. I remember visiting a retail store with so…

There have been 2 outstanding flight simulators on the market for the past ~20 years which more-or-less dominate the industry. X-Plane and MSFS are both excellent and both reasonably affordable. I suspect the lack of flight sims in retail has more to do with the fact that flight simulators are hard to create. When there is established competition with a great rep and decent pricing, it's nearly impossible to break into a market profitably.

Re: The 212-story skyscraper in Melbourne, Australia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crashing into stuff is great fun and probably the first impulse of anyone booting up a flight simulation program (especially kids) -- so much so that flight simulation software was the target of a moral panic in 2001 after the September 11 attacks were conducted by crashing real jets into buildings. Some people began to think of flight sims as "terrorist training tools" and call for them to be banned. That's probably…

That's because a few of the terrorists actually used flight sim games to "train" prior to the hijackings. It wasn't completely unfounded hysteria.

Almost all pilots use flight simulator "Games" during training.

Re: The 212-story skyscraper in Melbourne, Australia

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Did Microsoft credit Open Street Map?

It looks like OSM credits Microsoft for a lot of that data. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Microsoft_Building_Footp...

Those datasets appear to be US-only, which wouldn't apply to Melbourne?

Re: The 212-story skyscraper in Melbourne, Australia

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Is it morbid of me to wonder what happens if you fly a plane into such a building in Flight Simulator? It just… sticks out so much that crashing into it seems the obvious thing to try. (Judging by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhrGEdO88kE where someone eventually succeeds in landing on this building, it looks like if you fail the screen just goes black at the point of impact, so no interesting physics simulation.)

Crashing into stuff is great fun and probably the first impulse of anyone booting up a flight simulation program (especially kids) -- so much so that flight simulation software was the target of a moral panic in 2001 after the September 11 attacks were conducted by crashing real jets into buildings. Some people began to think of flight sims as "terrorist training tools" and call for them to be banned. That's probably…

> MFS2020 can simulate an aircraft that was partially damaged after colliding with an obstacle, but a catastrophic crash will just fade to black... Lame.

It’s a simulator, not a video game. What would be more realistic than this?

Re: The 212-story skyscraper in Melbourne, Australia

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Is it morbid of me to wonder what happens if you fly a plane into such a building in Flight Simulator? It just… sticks out so much that crashing into it seems the obvious thing to try. (Judging by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhrGEdO88kE where someone eventually succeeds in landing on this building, it looks like if you fail the screen just goes black at the point of impact, so no interesting physics simulation.)

Crashing into stuff is great fun and probably the first impulse of anyone booting up a flight simulation program (especially kids) -- so much so that flight simulation software was the target of a moral panic in 2001 after the September 11 attacks were conducted by crashing real jets into buildings. Some people began to think of flight sims as "terrorist training tools" and call for them to be banned. That's probably…

Try A-10 Cuba if you want to see this done right, in terms of fun.

Can knock bits of your wings off, grind your gears up etc

Re: The 212-story skyscraper in Melbourne, Australia

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I love the concept of massive buildings / structures in areas without such but I don’t think the city people would enjoy such buildings in actuality. The massive circular mine in Russia comes to mind (no pun intended).

Apparently a lot of people were pissed about the Eiffel Tower when it was being constructed. Now you couldn't pry it from their cold, dead hands. (People were also pissed about the twinkling lights installed for the anniversary, but they made them permanent, too)

The more recent-era equivalent is the Tour Montparnasse, which many Parisians believe ruins the skyline of their beloved city, but I personally find it rather beautiful in the same sort of eldritch way as the flight simulator building:

https://imgur.com/a/v7AHelJ

Re: The 212-story skyscraper in Melbourne, Australia

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Oh that's too funny. On a side note: I signed up for the discounted $1 trial month of Xbox Game Pass just to try this game out. The download and installation process was ridiculously slow and causing my CPU to ramp up to 80-100° even while undervolting it. On a brand new i7 9750. Not sure what that was all about. I put the process on pause... I am looking forward to giving it a try, though. Anyone else have any diffi…

There's an insane amount of outright bugs, jankiness, frameskipping, random framerate slowdowns, etc etc going on.

I recommend reading this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MicrosoftFlightSim/comments/ic3o90/... (read both by best and new)

And for the non-suckers who didn't buy the game yet: wait a few months. The shipped before actually making it work. I almost feel suckered because I paid $5 or so to re-activate my Xbox-PC-gamepass-or-whatever-they-call-it account so I could try it out.

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