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Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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" As employees they would have to work set schedules and shifts, would not be able to work for multiple app-based companies and would have reduced earning potential — and many jobs would actually be eliminated. " ( https://prop22facts.com/lyft/ ) Is that something mandated by California? As far as I know, everywhere else I've been, work-schedules and anti-moonlighting are restrictions placed by the employer, not the…

Under federal tax law if you're an employee it means you have a schedule. And if you're getting paid by the hour by Lyft you can't double dip and also get paid by the hour by Uber.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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" As employees they would have to work set schedules and shifts, would not be able to work for multiple app-based companies and would have reduced earning potential — and many jobs would actually be eliminated. " ( https://prop22facts.com/lyft/ ) Is that something mandated by California? As far as I know, everywhere else I've been, work-schedules and anti-moonlighting are restrictions placed by the employer, not the…

I don't think it's an anti-moonlight clause, I think it's saying that you can't do what many drivers do now, which is sign on to both apps and wait for a ride to come in, then sign out of the one you're not serving.

If you're an employee on the clock, you can't be on the clock for two different organizations at the same time.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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If Muni was any good, people wouldn't have used ridesharing. Ridesharing costs a bit more. This just shows that public transit in SF is so bad that people would rather pay more money for a taxi.

Don't forget the stigma that public transit is for dirty poor people. Rideshare is a bit of a classist thing.

Honest question: have you been on SF muni?

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Moving to a single payer system would unleash a lot of latent entreprenurial activity and free companies of all sizes from having to provide health insurance. Great documentary here on the business case for moving to single payer: http://fixithealthcare.com/

I think part of the problem in the US is that the current status is so bad, that everyone has a different proposed solution. Single payer is also seen as too paternalistic by a large minority of the US, so there is that as well.

> I think part of the problem in the US is that the current status is so bad, that everyone has a different proposed solution.

“Everyone has different solutions” as in the two parties, both corporatist through and through, are only willing to offer solutions that nip around the edges of the problem with ridiculously complex regulations that ultimately result in less competition and higher profits for healthcare conglomerates.

Single payer in the vein of “Medicare for All” is popular for voters of both parties. It’s just that our representatives represent us in name only.

> Single payer is also seen as too paternalistic by a large minority of the US, so there is that as well.

Again there’s a disconnect between the discourse you can see on corporate cable news and major newspapers and what people actually think and want.

That said, the corporate media and Dems/Rs have been very very successful in 50 years of messaging that everything the government does = bad, inefficient, rationing. And everything corporate = dynamic, efficient, desirable. Almost everything that can be privatized has been privatized via crony capitalism, but they can still say “govt has big budgets, shitty results” when it’s their privatization that is the exact reason for the decay.

It’s depressing how effective it all is.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Am I nuts, or is the heart of this issue really the fact that our healthcare system is built on tying benefits to full time jobs?

This is why I think it was a mistake for the ACA to limit catastrophic care to people under 30 (unless you get a hardship waiver [0]). That policy makes the cheapest non-job insurance that a lot of people can get cost >$500/month, whereas a catastrophic plan costs a lot less (about $120/month when I had such a plan in 2016). For a lot of people who drive Lyft, catastrophic care could be a good fit, e.g. people in bet…

Where do you see those numbers? ACA offers catastrophic plans to those under 30 and they're not nearly that expensive. I just did a quick check for someone with no subsidy in San Fransisco using the age of 25 and a catastrophic plan from Oscar showed up at $223.46/month. This includes zero subsidy. Using a $30k income and rerunning the numbers, a bronze plan form Kaiser with subsidy comes out at $47.83/month.

Look, I'm not happy about health care costs either, but ACA plans for young are really not that expensive. Further, plans prior to ACA offered terrible coverage. Yes, people got to say they had coverage, but the lifetime caps bankrupted people repeatedly. Eliminating the caps and mandating minimum essential coverage was absolutely essential to eliminating what really were scams of coverage. Further, even if you really want to get terrible coverage for less money, you can always use the loop hole and purchase coverage through a health care sharing ministry, which are even cheaper. Though, I strongly recommend against that because there's no guarantee that a bill will be covered.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Uber and Lyft are voluntarily suspending operations to make a political point; they are the ones kicking the little guy while they're down. The fact that these companies can spend 100 million to dismantle the outcome of the political process shows how little power the California government actually has.

Tough to call anything done as voluntary with a gun held up to the head. Their entire business model (which has not been super profitable to say the least) was just made illegal in California. Life goes on though, probably the Taxi industry is very pleased, many of the full-time drivers will go on to work as Taxi drivers, licensed with hours and all. And I'll just lower my expectations for getting a taxi dispatched w…

>Tough to call anything done as voluntary with a gun held up to the head.

Excuse me?

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Another group caught in the collateral damage is people in wheelchairs. Paratransit sucks in most places and where wheelchair accessible Uber/Lyft is available they provide a much better service. This is an especially vulnerable population because it's not like a wheelchair user can just find a friend with an accessible vehicle to take them to appointments, etc.

What did people in wheelchairs do before these rideshare apps were around?

There are plenty of cabs that are wheelchair accessible. My wife works in surgery centers and they often call a cab for someone that needs a ride home and is in a wheelchair.

Edit: This was one of the main reasons against using Uber. Cabs were, I believe, legally required to provide this service, and Uber wasn't. That may have changed, but cabs were subject to that regulation, at least in Oregon, and Uber wasn't. Uber may have filled that gap, but I'm sure it was for financial benefit to them and not because it was the right thing to do.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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post #344

Another group caught in the collateral damage is people in wheelchairs. Paratransit sucks in most places and where wheelchair accessible Uber/Lyft is available they provide a much better service. This is an especially vulnerable population because it's not like a wheelchair user can just find a friend with an accessible vehicle to take them to appointments, etc.

This is a true and an important concern. Municipalities and counties in California really need to step up their game and provide a viable and cheap to use alternative.

Everybody deserves to be able to go where they want within their community when they want to. And we should provide these without relying on private companies with questionable labor practices.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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" As employees they would have to work set schedules and shifts, would not be able to work for multiple app-based companies and would have reduced earning potential — and many jobs would actually be eliminated. " ( https://prop22facts.com/lyft/ ) Is that something mandated by California? As far as I know, everywhere else I've been, work-schedules and anti-moonlighting are restrictions placed by the employer, not the…

Yeah I am fairly sure it's a straight up lie!

Just because someone is an employee doesn't mean the employer can't give them flexible hours

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