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Reddit reports 18% reduction in hate content after banning nearly 7k subreddits

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Re: Reddit reports 18% reduction in hate content after banning nearly 7k subreddits

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The other 82% is /r/politics

Nope, definitely /r/conspiracy.

Nah r/politics is completely unhinged. I have rarely seen that level of vitriol anywhere else on reddit, even on Trump subs. This isn't just about ideas, this is about how people behave and talk. It's surreal.

Re: Reddit reports 18% reduction in hate content after banning nearly 7k subreddits

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7000 subreddits only accounted for an 18% reduction? What the heck is going on with that website.

Very few (like just a hundred) were active. Rest were quarantined or too small. banned due to having the name 'Trap' or 'Fragile' in the sub name

Re: Reddit reports 18% reduction in hate content after banning nearly 7k subreddits

#63

Said differently: "Reddit banned nearly 7,000 subreddits, but left alone the ones that contribute 82% of hate content." That seems like a dismal result, practically an admission that many of the bans were unjustified and/or subs that should have been banned were not.

I think it just depends on the number of subreddits. If 7,000 is 1% of subs, then it seems like a good investment. If it's 30%, then yeah, that's.. not great.

Re: Reddit reports 18% reduction in hate content after banning nearly 7k subreddits

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Reddit hasn't been taken over by communist SJWs, they're just preparing for an IPO. If you're unhappy that participating in capitalism usually entails some kind of unaccountable censorship you should probably revise some of your pre-existing beliefs about capitalism.

Re: Reddit reports 18% reduction in hate content after banning nearly 7k subreddits

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They clearly outline their definition of "hate content" in their post about it. [0] They go over the methodology and dig a bit into the results. It looks like a good start. [0] - https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsecurity/comments/idclo1/unde...

>They clearly outline their definition of "hate content" in their post about it. Am I missing something here? I read the post and it's not clearly defined at all. All they did is mention was: >To generate and categorize the list of keywords, we used a wide variety of resources and AutoModerator* rules from large subreddits that deal with abuse regularly.

They link to their full content policy in the first paragraph: https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy

Re: Reddit reports 18% reduction in hate content after banning nearly 7k subreddits

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Hate speech" is a very specific term, and I'd guess Reddit's deliberately avoiding using it. They're targeting hate in the broad sense, the sense that they want to build communities where people are nice rather than mean.

What they really want are echo chambers where only approved opinions are allowed.

I don't think that's fair. It's hardly unprecedented for a website to explicitly ban unapproved opinions, so if that was what Reddit really wanted, why wouldn't they just do it?

Re: Reddit reports 18% reduction in hate content after banning nearly 7k subreddits

#67

Anyone remember them saying in their ToS that hate speech is okay as long as it isn't against a group considered to be the minority?

Punching up vs punching down is a super important distinction to make in these kinds of policies.

Re: Reddit reports 18% reduction in hate content after banning nearly 7k subreddits

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Anyone remember them saying in their ToS that hate speech is okay as long as it isn't against a group considered to be the minority?

To be fair to their intentions, the the cultural meaning is different based on social context. This is why successfully policing content on a global or even national social media site is nigh impossible.

When a woman is recounting frustration at being talked over during a meeting and says "kill all men," there's a non-literal connotation based in a belief in patriarchal suppression.

When a man says "kill all women" it reads darker, based on a belief that men subject women to violence specifically based on their gender/sexuality. Even if it's clearly not meant to be taken literally, there's still a dark underpinning culturally (e.g. see Marilyn Manson's 'I Want to Kill You Like They Do in The Movies’)

As a result, "kill all women" is much less likely to be said in mixed company; the more common communication discriminating against women will be longer form, and not easily string-matched.

Therefore, with 'even' enforcement, an offhand complaint about men's place in society will often instantly trigger an automatic deletion/ban, while a misogynistic screed will require human review to be removed.

Re: Reddit reports 18% reduction in hate content after banning nearly 7k subreddits

#69

Said differently: "Reddit banned nearly 7,000 subreddits, but left alone the ones that contribute 82% of hate content." That seems like a dismal result, practically an admission that many of the bans were unjustified and/or subs that should have been banned were not.

I think it just depends on the number of subreddits. If 7,000 is 1% of subs, then it seems like a good investment. If it's 30%, then yeah, that's.. not great.

>I think it just depends on the number of subreddits

the number of subreddits shouldn't matter, what actually should matter is post volume.

Re: Reddit reports 18% reduction in hate content after banning nearly 7k subreddits

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Said differently: "Reddit banned nearly 7,000 subreddits, but left alone the ones that contribute 82% of hate content." That seems like a dismal result, practically an admission that many of the bans were unjustified and/or subs that should have been banned were not.

The last bunch of bans was simply a leftist purge, banning several subreddits that at most advocated violence against landlords, not really a "minority".
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