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Re: Can't you just right click?

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OpenStreetMap treasurer here to jump on the tangent. Hi! Apple's focus is on maximising profit, and ours is on maximising mapping and the width of our membership, especially after the entryism attempt last year ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19008792 ).- We've also recently received a non-profit signing certificate from Apple through our German local chapter, and two of us are working on getting JOSM automati…

Interjecting a side note - while you're here.... a building nr me, was a pub 15 years ago, then it was empty for 5 years, until it became a convenience store. It's still listed as a pub, 2 years after I, and others, have sent corrections. I'd love to love OSM but.... Apologies for the hijack... Back to the main issue with right click.....

OSM works like Wikipedia. There's no company looking at notes, it's just volunteers. You can also do the modification yourself, it's quite easy, you just need an account.

For that particular case, if you post the URL or location I can take a look if you want.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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>It is a lifestyle brand now, people money because it is Apple, not because there is real value they gain for the higher cost. Oh come now, there are millions and millions of professionals using macOS to do work every single day. This is basically a slippery slope fallacy. Today they're making it marginally hard, what might they do tomorrow?!? There are many reasons to prefer macOS to Linux or Windows. The Apple ecos…

> Oh come now, there are millions and millions of professionals using macOS to do work every single day. Wait, have you seen them ? Can you link the source for this claim ? > seamlessness of owning an Apple Watch, iPhone, iPad, AirPods, and a macOS device. Why do you need this seamlessness ? Is your attention span so short that you forget what you were doing after the first error pops up ?

Don't know about the others, but I have an iphone and a mbp. I used to have android phones before this, and I bought the iphone just to check it out, since I got a good deal on it.

For me, the "seamlessness" opened new possibilities of use. What I really love is being able to use the phone from my computer. I don't have to have it handy.

Examples :

1. Call and take calls directly from the computer. Extremely practical with corded headphones I use for listening to music. Could I just get my headphones off and grab the phone? Of course. If I noticed the phone ringing.

2. Handle messages from the computer. I don't send and receive messages that often, but for some random 2FA over SMS this is just so practical. Could I grab the phone and read the code? Yeah, but if the computer does it automatically it's much nicer.

3. The Handoff feature, for example when I'm on the bus, start reading some article on some website. When I get home / at the office, I can open the page on the computer. Couldn't I copy the URL and type it in? Of course, but it's clearly a pain.

4. Internet sharing: just activate it from the computer, don't have to copy the password, etc by handling the phone. As above, I could of course do this by hand, but it's much more practical.

Maybe all this could be set up somehow with Linux / Windows and maybe with android too. I honestly don't know - my windows PC can't even get internet sharing via usb out of the box (didn't care enough about this to look into it more). It works fine on Linux though.

It's not a question of having a short attention span or of doing something very difficult. It's just having tools that work for you and getting out of your way. After all, that's why we use machines (which computers are): to automate things.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Heavily sandboxing apps by default is fine, and some Linux distros are, slowly, moving to do this - see e.g. AppArmor and Snap. Even giving warnings by default about unsigned apps requesting high privileges would be fine if the implied message weren't basically "everything we haven't checked is malware". Something like "We nor any other provider you've chosen to trust have no idea who made this and we haven't checked…

> Even giving warnings by default about unsigned apps requesting high privileges would be fine if the implied message weren't basically "everything we haven't checked is malware". Something like "We nor any other provider you've chosen to trust have no idea who made this and we haven't checked if it contains malware. This program may steal and delete all your files. Be really sure you trust the author before running…

> Well, what you ask is what's written in the very first prompt screenshotted in the blog post; [..] I don't see how this choice of words is much different from your proposal.

There are nuances about the UI and wording as discussed elsewhere in this thread, but my main objection is about Apple positioning themselves as the only one who decides which apps don't get that warning.

> [..] I don't think Apple will ever relinquish the strategic power to force developers to adopt APIs and track their lifecycle, and never again have to deal with the Flash scenario.

I don't see how alternative stores would prevent Apple from breaking backwards-compatibility on an OS they would still control. Even open source projects do BC breaks as they see fit. And I think Microsoft demonstrates that proper BC is something a company the size of Apple could well afford to do if they cared to.

The Flash case could be seen to support my position as well. Wasn't it a case of Adobe getting into a dominant position (for their particular niche) and then "abusing" it by letting Flash stagnate with awful security? It's good that we eventually got rid of Flash, but wouldn't it have all been much easier if Adobe had never become that dominant in the first place?

You can of course say Apple would never let something stagnate in that way, but all companies have their (sometimes shifting) priorities and interests. Often they'll align with you as the user - that's the nice thing about capitalism - but there's no guarantee that they always will (e.g. that Hong Kong example), and a dominant player in the absence of healty competition is always incentivized to charge as much as the market will bear.

> If they let the door open to "alternative stores" good luck explaining to the general public how it's not their fault if works like shite and kills hardware performance.

Is this really that big of a problem? Seems like something platforms already deal with by surfacing and by default restricting apps' energy use etc, though this too can be a double-edged sword. I have a few apps on Android that need to constantly show a pointless notification just so they can run in the background, and they have legit reasons to do so, and I'm OK with the battery drain.

Again I'm compelled to draw an analogy to society: freedom indeed requires some degree of responsibility and understanding from everyone. Benevolent dictators are a great place to "outsource" all that. The trouble is that they (or their successors) rarely stay benevolent for long, especially if you're not in their ingroup. I've yet to see power accumulation have good long-term consequences in history.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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All of these people saying: switch to Windows, its better than mac! Have you really done that? REALLY? Because I work on Mac, Win10 and Linux every day. And Win10 doesn't even come close to the other two in terms of reliability, stability, and lack of unnecessary bullshit. I just don't understand who can make this claim that Win is better than Macos with a straight face. Maybe for gaming. Maybe. The cost/fps is clear…

I use both daily, I love a lot of things about MacOS but I also love how insanely powerful my PC is for the price, OS preferences stop mattering when one machine can render a 4K image in 40 seconds using CUDA GPUs and the other it would take hours.

Windows 10 is slowly getting better every year and honestly there are only a handful of things left that I think really lag behind Mac, Explorer being the main one.

> reliability, stability,

They're basically identical at this point, my PC runs for months on end just fine. One of my macs does the same, my USB-C MBP is the only standout as it kernel panics in it's sleep most nights.

If your Windows machine is having stability issues you probably have bad hardware, like my USB-C MacBook.

> and lack of unnecessary bullshit.

I'd say they're both about the same, windows has it's issues but so does MacOS, my mac asks me every single day if I want to update the OS and there is no "No" option only "Restart" and "Later", it also warns me 10 times a day that the disk space is running low, yep I know it's low because it's a 128GB machine, nothing I can do to fix that.

The days of Apple being against this sort of stuff is over, my iPhone asks me once a month to subscribe to Apple music when I open my Music app, out of the box iPhones have Apple News notifications. Daily OS upgrade request on MacOS

Re: Can't you just right click?

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If only we had an operating system that we could install on our computers freely, right? It is a shame that people are forced to buy a computer and not reformat the disk to install their OS of choice. It is a shame that we can not take the money that we could be saving and investing in open alternatives...

Yes, and I've used that other OS a lot as well But it is not a panacea and it is not for everybody. And it has two main issues: - developers don't care about stability and/or polish (just see the discussions on the trackpad ITT) "Oh but if you change library X to Y and reroute libinput and etc it might maybe work and maybe it will not break anything else" - because of the former reason, not all (important) applicatio…

In my experience, people who fight against things like NM do not know what they are doing, think it's still 1990, network configuration is still static /etc/network/interfaces and then wonder why their wifi/lte modem/dns/whatever isn't working and wonder why.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Don't you? A few years ago I wanted to figure out how to cross-compile into macOS without ever actually using macOS. Is that possible now?

I know Rust specifically supports compiling for Mac from Linux.

Doesn't rust support cross compiling to/from any supported platform?

Re: Can't you just right click?

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>It is a lifestyle brand now, people money because it is Apple, not because there is real value they gain for the higher cost. Oh come now, there are millions and millions of professionals using macOS to do work every single day. This is basically a slippery slope fallacy. Today they're making it marginally hard, what might they do tomorrow?!? There are many reasons to prefer macOS to Linux or Windows. The Apple ecos…

Nobody can deny that macOS has the most integrated system especially if you own an iPhone/iPad/iWatch. However, for development, it's going to depend. Excluding iOS/macOS development, the macOS is becoming less and less attractive even for web developers.

I'm a web developer, and I just bought a new MBP. There is nothing (currently) that is pushing me away from Mac as my local dev machine.

I can't remember the last time I ran an unsigned GUI app as part of my development workflow.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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The certificate is only checked on initial load. If the application gets changed afterwards then it will still load. It is not an integrity check. More details here: https://eclecticlight.co/2019/07/09/understanding-signature-...

For code itself, which is what this change affects, code signing is verified by the kernel at page-in time. Combined with W^X, there's no way to bypass it. Verifying associated resources is done separately by userland and is a somewhat messier process.

Thanks

Re: Can't you just right click?

#549
The whole idea here is to protect the user. If it's important enough for you to have your app signed then you will do it.

iOS does this in a much more violent approach - the app verification process.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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While I haven't seen those comparisons, I did do a similar one myself. Like GP, I have a 2013 mbp. It still works perfectly and handles whatever I throw at it. As it's getting long in the tooth and it could end up not working anymore, and also because I got curious with the release of the 16" mbp, I looked a bit at the market, and also at similar offerings from Lenovo, HP and Dell. You are right, for the price of a 1…

Try Razer stuff.

Isn't that as expensive as a mbp though?

Razer Blade 15 Studio Edition - OLED 4K Touch 60Hz - Quadro RTX 5000 - Mercury

    Intel Core i7-10875H
    Windows 10 Pro
    15.6" 60Hz OLED 4K Touch
    Quadro RTX 5000
    32GB RAM, 1TB SSD
US$4,299.99

16-inch MacBook Pro - Space Gray 2.4GHz 8‑core 9th‑generation Intel Core i9 processor, Turbo Boost up to 5.0GHz 64GB 2666MHz DDR4 memory AMD Radeon Pro 5500M with 8GB of GDDR6 memory 1TB SSD storage

$3,899.00

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