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Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by cytzol »

dwaite wrote: post #165
cytzol wrote: post #133

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> As much as we all like to call out Apple sometimes for how they don't take good care of their developers, adding hoops for your developers to jump through is not a great idea. Why not? Apple has been pushing very hard lately to increase their 'services' revenue, by getting users to sign up for Apple Music, iCloud, etc. It makes perfect sense for Apple to force developers to jump through hoops, not because it makes…

> • When launching Chrome for the first time, you have to opt-in to Chrome notifications, but macOS pops up its own notification telling you to use Safari instead. Link to a screenshot of this Safari notification when Chrome is run? > Similarly, Apple News notifications are allowed by default, but you have to explicitly opt-in to notifications from other news websites. Reference to an article about this? > • System P…

> Link to a screenshot of this Safari notification when Chrome is run?

https://danieljwilson.me/2019/10/16/a-catalina-double-standa...

> Reference to an article about this?

It's this article: https://mjtsai.com/blog/2020/02/17/the-paywalled-garden-ios-...

But it's referencing this tweet: https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/1228431785442381824

> This is something other apps can't display...?

You're right, I should have been more specific: it shows the badge even when I don't have System Preferences open, while other apps (such as my chat client, or mail client) only show badges when they're open. It shouldn't show the badge at all, though.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by saagarjha »

aaomidi wrote: post #216
saagarjha wrote: post #75

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$100 can be an hour of a developer's salary here, or even less. The relative cost is quite large. (Oh, and guess who isn't making a developer's salary in Iran? Someone who is just starting out, or an open source developer, or someone who is currently unemployed…)

Literally no one in Iran is paying $100/hr. I looked at your website you have linked on your bio as well. You've never even worked in Iran. Stop lying. Edit: this comment was a misunderstanding, ignore please.

By "here" I mean the United States, a place that I lived and worked in my entire life.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by aaomidi »

saagarjha wrote: post #232
aaomidi wrote: post #216

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Literally no one in Iran is paying $100/hr. I looked at your website you have linked on your bio as well. You've never even worked in Iran. Stop lying. Edit: this comment was a misunderstanding, ignore please.

By "here" I mean the United States, a place that I lived and worked in my entire life.

Ah that makes more sense

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by totetsu »

brundolf wrote: post #137
jentist_retol wrote: post #126

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I have a feeling that this is going to change in the next year or two.

It could. But still, someone has to develop iOS itself. And someone has to write the server back-ends that all those apps depend on. And the cloud infrastructure that those back-ends run within. By definition there will always be something out there that can't be developed on a locked-down platform. So there will always be an open platform, even if Apple decided one day (again, unlikely I think) to recuse themselves…

But the people who make iOS work for apple, can't they use an in house proprietary tool set, to develop it?

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by comex »

wila wrote: post #162
xenadu02 wrote: post #92

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It is important to understand what this requirement is and isn't. The requirement on Apple Silicon is only that the binary be codesigned. That ensures the binary is unmodified when it is encountered again later. You do not need an Apple-approved signing key for this. Ad-hoc signing works just fine. Apple's new linker automatically adds an ad-hoc signature to ensure people building outside Xcode don't experience any d…

The certificate is only checked on initial load. If the application gets changed afterwards then it will still load. It is not an integrity check. More details here: https://eclecticlight.co/2019/07/09/understanding-signature-...

For code itself, which is what this change affects, code signing is verified by the kernel at page-in time. Combined with W^X, there's no way to bypass it. Verifying associated resources is done separately by userland and is a somewhat messier process.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by Dragory »

dwaite wrote: post #180
jojobas wrote: post #149

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It's more of a choke hold than a cash grab. Your app broke our store rules, we removed it and you're suing us? We'll terminate your dev account so your apps won't run.

Assuming you mean Epic, Apple has only given a deadline to cease breaking their developer agreement before their developer account is terminated. Epic is empowered to get their app back in the store tomorrow if they want to release an updated build without the contract-infringing functionality. They probably have lost their chance to be features by Apple or to be invited back on stage in future keynotes, but at least…

Do you want the manufacturer of your computer or its operating system - and only them - to be able to specify exactly who can and can't develop software for it, and whose software you can and can't run? I don't, and I don't see any situation where I'd want a single entity to have that power, even if it comes with security benefits (which are not mutually exclusive to this setup either).

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by vageli »

FabHK wrote: post #161
saagarjha wrote: post #148

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Because it says the binary is damaged/malware/sketchy and that is not correct.

It doesn't say that. It says that it can't verify the developer, and can't verify that the software is free of malware. It's just some arbitrary piece of software, could be written by anyone, and/or could be software that purports to be Word or Photoshop or whatever, but has been modified. Granted, you could quibble with the details (does pointing out that you can't verify that it's free from malware imply that you c…

It doesn't seem like they verify every app to ensure it is free from malware. Since they respond in the affirmative if they app is signed (by not warning), it seems reasonable for a lay person to believe that an app that doesn't throw this warning is free of malware.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by saagarjha »

aaomidi wrote: post #233
saagarjha wrote: post #232

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By "here" I mean the United States, a place that I lived and worked in my entire life.

Ah that makes more sense

I try to make myself fairly easy to find as a show that my intentions are not to mislead :)

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by mehrdadn »

FabHK wrote: post #161
saagarjha wrote: post #148

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Because it says the binary is damaged/malware/sketchy and that is not correct.

It doesn't say that. It says that it can't verify the developer, and can't verify that the software is free of malware. It's just some arbitrary piece of software, could be written by anyone, and/or could be software that purports to be Word or Photoshop or whatever, but has been modified. Granted, you could quibble with the details (does pointing out that you can't verify that it's free from malware imply that you c…

> imply

> misleading

I... don't think misleading means what you think it means. Misleading statements (pretty much by definition) don't imply falsehoods. They "merely" "suggest" falsehoods to those who don't already know better. If they intentionally "implied" falsehoods then they would be called "lies", not "misleading".

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by EForEndeavour »

Wohlf wrote: post #222
gpanders wrote: post #202

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While I also find these changes to macOS alarming and disappointing, I still vastly prefer macOS to Windows. My 2013 Macbook Pro is also still the best laptop I have ever used (I also have a 2017 Macbook Pro for work and I have to admit that the newer models rightfully earn their bad reputation). If Apple continues to head in this direction, I think the right move is to migrate to Linux. Windows is a huge step back,…

You may be surprised how much equivalent laptops from other OEMs have caught up. The Dell XPS is very similar to the Macbook Pro, and Dell supports Ubuntu on it.

How do the trackpad and battery life compare?
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