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I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf]

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Re: I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf]

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> Is anything being done in that direction that might become effective? Stop buying iphones and macs.

So much this. Apple customers are funding this behavior.

Because other companies are worse and do all sorts of other shit.

Re: I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf]

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You certainly can influnce a company - it is called being or not being a customer. There is no such opt out option for government as much as sovereign citizens may believe otherwise.

> You certainly can influnce a company - it is called being or not being a customer. Let's be optimistic and assume 10% of the population is informed and passionate enough about a company's wrongdoings to boycott it. That company is still going to thrive just fine on the business from the other 90%. Holdouts alone won't stop it from accumulating power and reach.

But how is that your problem if you cut Apple away from your life?

Re: I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf]

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So much this. Apple customers are funding this behavior.

Because other companies are worse and do all sorts of other shit.

Yes they pay Apple for reinforcing this notion too.

Re: I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf]

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1) I worked at a game company 2011: kicked out of facebook (quizzes restrictions were added to the toss) 2) I worked at a mobile ads company 2013: kicked out of apple store 3) I worked at a mobile hosting company for small shops 2015: salons, restaurants, etc: kicked out of apple store 4) I worked at a mobile social network company (2017): kicked out of apple store. 5) I built an app where people can promote their gi…

Dude, you win today's unluckiest developer award. Most of those were good ideas to work on, right up until they were banned. The flip side is, you've been involved with a lot of projects. And that's often a big advantage. Some devs stay with the same company for 5 to 10 years.

The thing I fear most here, is companies getting banned because they employ a developer who worked at another company that gets banned. I've heard that either for Apple or Google (I forgot which), any relationship at all to a banned account can get you banned.

So an unlucky developer could rapidly become even more unlucky, and infect others with that 'bad luck'.

Re: I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf]

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you've really had it rough. I guess the lesson to all of us is to never rely on third-party platforms as much as possible

Even if you develop for bare metal, you’re at the mercy of hardware manufacturers, who sometimes change specs without warnings. Windows and Linux are third-party platforms too. I mostly develop for these two platforms (been doing for couple decades now), and never had the unfortunate experience of GP.

None of those are quite as arbitrary as the App Store, though.

It's one thing if an app stops working on newer versions of the system due to fundamental change to that system. It's totally different if you get banned simply because the gatekeeper doesn't like your face.

Re: I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf]

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Like I said, arbitrary line drawing. The only reason you can't do photo editing on a switch is that Nintendo hasn't approved a photo editing app on its store. How is that really different than what Apple does?

I have no expectation of using the controllers of my Nintendo Switch to slowly and arduously type out an email. It features input devices made exclusively to be great at playing games. I cannot "daily drive" a Nintendo switch even if Nintendo allowed me sideload whatever apps I want, because all it has are game controllers. Because of this, while technically it contains general purpose hardware, practically it is a g…

> I have no expectation of using the controllers of my Nintendo Switch to slowly and arduously type out an email.

As far as I am aware, there is no reason other than artificially imposed limitations that a Bluetooth or USB keyboard could not be connected to a Swtich.

It's the same thing, the manufacturer arbitrarily chose what functionality to allow and what not to allow.

Re: I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf]

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I think we are slowly coming to the consensus (as a society) that security is preferable to freedom because it maximizes harm reduction (harm reduction being the ultimate metric by which to measure the value of something). I don't agree at all, but the way our government is, it's a one way ratchet to get new laws passed. Speech laws only get stricter (one inch at a time) over the years, never looser. Gun laws only ge…

We are in the middle of a pandemic that the US has been singularly unable/unwilling among the world's developed countries to apply the necessary measures to solve, and still you argue that the real problem is too much harm reduction... I'm sure enjoying my fulfilling free life as I make plans to sit alone in my apartment for another entire year because I live in the land of freedom, where people can dine in indoor re…

Are you saying you'd rather live in a country where the police will chokeslam you if you are caught not properly wearing a mask outside of your house[0]?

If yes => you prefer security over freedom. And that's okay.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC7JnT3JaQk

Re: I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf]

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post #335

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Dude, you win today's unluckiest developer award. Most of those were good ideas to work on, right up until they were banned. The flip side is, you've been involved with a lot of projects. And that's often a big advantage. Some devs stay with the same company for 5 to 10 years.

The thing I fear most here, is companies getting banned because they employ a developer who worked at another company that gets banned. I've heard that either for Apple or Google (I forgot which), any relationship at all to a banned account can get you banned. So an unlucky developer could rapidly become even more unlucky, and infect others with that 'bad luck'.

Indeed, for that reason I will never use any google products for my businesses. The risk of being destroyed overnight and without any possible appeal is just too high.

Re: I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf]

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post #275

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Do you think it isn’t true? You seem to be just deflecting.

I do not think it's true that Apple's decision to ban Microsoft's xCloud is to protect their customers from games that are actually trying to defraud players. If this is deflecting then I guess call me the Great Deflector.

Do you think it’s true that users can tell the difference between Apps and Websites?

That’s the question you replied to without answering before.

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